Echoes of Footprints:
Racing Through the Years
at
Crystal Springs
30th Anniversary Commemorative Edition
1971 - 2001
Researched and Prepared by
Michael R. Elsesser
and edited by
Hank Lawson
May 2002
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Table of Contents
Appendix A - Location & Course Maps (6)
Appendix B - 1974 AAU Men's National XC Championships - Old 10K course (8)
Appendix C - 1975 AAU Women's National XC Championships (17)
Appendix D - 1979 NorCal HS XC Championships (3)
Appendix E - 1979 Kinney-West Regional XC Championships (3)
Appendix F - 1979 State JC XC Championships (4)
Appendix G - 1980 PA/AAU Junior XC Championships (2)
Appendix H - 1990 PA/AAU XC Championships (2)
Appendix I - Coaches "Hall Of Fame" (7)
Appendix J - Articles & Photos (15)
Appendix K - History of CCS Cross Country (3)
Appendix L - Forrest Jamieson - Father of CCS X-C (7)
Appendix M - Joe Henderson - Making the Past Last (2)
Appendix N - Speech by Forrest Jamieson (13)
Appendix O - Peninsula 'Track' Revolution - SF Chronicle (2)
Appendix P - Explanation of Entries & Abbreviations (2)
Appendix Q - High School Records - Old Course, 2.25m (43)
Appendix R - High School Records, 2.95m (14)
Appendix S - Junior/Community College Records (9)
Appendix T - Open/Club/Collegiate Records (6)
Appendix U - Second Generation Records (1)
Miscellaneous Pictures (4)
Appendix A
Location, Course Maps & Video
Directions to Crystal Springs
High School Course Map
JC Course Map
Aerial View of HS Course Map
Video of Crystal Springs
and they're off...
Appendix B
1974 AAU Men's National XC Championships
Neil Cusack (left) & Ted Castaneda (center) shown leading.
Winner John Ngeno (in second).
Appendix C
AAU Women's National XC Championships
Appendix D
1979 NorCal HS XC Championships
Appendix E
1979 Kinney-West Regional XC Championships
Appendix F
1979 State JC XC Championships
Appendix G
1980 PA-AAU Junior XC Championships
Appendix H
1990 PA-AAU XC Championships
Appendix I
Appendix J
Articles & Photos
Peninsula Living
Palo Alto Times / Redwood City Tribune
Saturday, October 25, 1975
San Jose Mercury News
November 25, 1982
San Mateo Times
November 4, 1983
Peninsula Times Tribune
November - 1983
Peninsula Times Tribune
Saturday, October 15, 1991
San Mateo Times
Saturday, October 19, 1995
Times Tribune
November - ????
San Mateo Times
Tuesday, October 15, 1996
San Mateo Times
Friday, October 18, 1996
They're Off!
(notice finish of prior race in background)
Appendix K
History of CCS Cross-Country
CCS Cross Country: A Brief History by Howard Willman edited by Hank
Lawson
circa 1983
Though there had been occasional cross country races before his time,
Forrest Jamieson is considered the father of high school cross country
in the Bay Area. It was not until Jamieson's arrival at Palo Alto High
in the early '50s that the sport began its incredible growth, directly
attributed to Jamieson's efforts to popularize it.
And that was not difficult to do. Cross country was, and still is,
an easy sport to comprehend. As a team sport, it stressed an aspect of
running that was not as important on the track. Because it is a team sport,
its numbers of participants grew easily and fast. (In fact, today some
high school cross country teams out-number their track squads.) Jamieson,
still considered one of the area's best-ever coaches, was most instrumental
in molding the sport into its current shape, a shape which has for over
30 years been a hotbed of national talent.
In 1954, the North Coast Section (NCS) officially sanctioned the sport,
and on November 20, the first NCS Championships were held. A 1.96-mile
course at the Stanford Golf Course was laid out, and it was to become the
site of the NCS for 10 consecutive years. Also held on that course were
"center meets," an invitation by Jamieson to help popularize
the sport here. The meets were almost immediately successful, attracting
as many as 1000 participants each week.
In 1957, Track & Field News editor Bert Nelson started "postal"
competitions. The idea was to have high school teams running 2 miles on
a track per runner for 5 members, adding the times together for a team
total. Coaches mailed the results to T&FN to serve as a comparison
for schools across the nation. The event grew so popular that the 2-mile
eventually became nearly standard throughout the country in state track
meets (California first held a 2-mile in its 1965 state meet).
In 1962, Hillsdale coach Plato Yanicks (since moved to Menlo Atherton)
started, with the helpful support of the Northern California Track &
Field Association, all-NorCal teams. A few years later, Citizen Savings
joined in the sponsorship. Yanicks led selection committees until 1981,
when the top runners began to be selected on the basis of their finish
at the NorCal meet.
The sport is still running strong today, as are center meets, postal
meets (which were discontinued in the late '80s, ed.), and section championships.
In 1965, the Central Coast Section (CCS) was formed for cross country,
as the CCS was breaking away sport-by-sport from the NCS. Since that breakaway,
the sport has been gaining momentum, though maybe reaching a plateau by
1980 (latest census shows that running, in general, had its biggest year
to date in 1997, ed.).
Cross country's popularity became so great that in 1970 separate divisions
were instituted. In 1970 and '71, schools were polarized into "large"
and "small" divisions based upon school population. In '72, a
"medium" division was also added. But it became very apparent
after '72 that the idea of the CCS champion was being lost, so in 1973
the CCS coaches went back to the standard setup, only increasing the qualifiers
about 50% from pre- 1970 days. In 1977, the CCS incorporated its first
girls championships. In 1978, the first Northern California Championships,
an idea which had been brewing in the minds of many coaches for about 20
years, were finally a reality, in large part to the efforts of Menlo-Atherton
coach Plato Yanicks. In 1979, Kinney Shoes began sponsoring a National
cross country championship for individuals by holding 5 (now 4) regional
meets: though runners deterred no prep stars. A California state meet had
been rumored for several years, but the suggestion seemed to be on a back
burner until more administrators warmed up to the idea. (An unofficial
state meet was held in Merced back in 1957, but the NorCal meets since
1978 had been the next closest thing to an official state meet. Some coaches
believed the Kinney Western Regional meet was the perfect setting for an
unofficial state meet.)
(In 1988, the reality of a true state meet came to fruition. It was
held at Fresno's Woodard Park, where individuals and teams came together
to compete in one of 5 divisions [increased from the 3 divisions of the
early '70s] ed.)
As mentioned earlier, the Stanford Golf Course served as the area's
standard course in the '50s and early '60s. It, too, became popular, but
not with those who played golf on it, and, defiantly, the runners were
eventually not allowed to use the course after 1963. (in recent years,
however, the high school runners have been allowed one meet per year at
Stanford Golf course.) The section meet's home wandered several places,
one of them being a 2.25 mile course near Crystal Springs Reservoir in
Belmont. In 1971, because of construction of Interstate 280, the course
was re-done and laid down to its present 2.95 miles. College of San Mateo
coach Bob Rush is considered by San Mateo city and San Francisco Water
District officials to be the "parent" of the course.
Crystal Spring's odd distance (2.95) is attributed to the fact that when the
course first opened, a large trench was dug for a pipeline right where they
wanted the start to be. Hence, they had to move the start forward a bit
making the course shorter than the designers had originally intended.
1983 will mark the 7th year in a row that the CCS meet will be contested
there (and every year through 2001, also, ed.). The first 3 NorCal meets
and the first Kinney Western Regional meet were held there, as were the
1974 AAU Men's and 1975 Women's National Championships and various other
championship meets. Center meets, the Crystal Springs Invitational (now
called the Serra Invitational, ed.) and several league and region meets are
also contested there.
Unlike the Stanford Golf Course, Crystal Springs is solely a cross
country course. And like any course, Crystal Springs has received both
positive and negative comments. Most of its negative criticisms seem to
be a direct correlation to the course's tough nature (long, somewhat hard
dirt surface, steep downhill at start). (As well as lack of parking, ed.)
And its positive praise is what can't be beat for meets of large and important
stature: it can handle large numbers of runners, and spectators can see
over 75% of the race. Like many courses, it is not invincible to weather
tantrums (rain and wind), though Crystal Springs' paths can handle more
water than any other dirt or grass course in the CCS.
Throughout the past decades, it has offered the cross country community
an extreme sense of familiarity. Yet no matter how often one has run it
in the past, Crystal Springs is always a challenge to the runner who treads
its paths again.
Appendix L
Forrest Jamieson
A Look at the Man - Forrest Jamieson
"The runner is much more than a point-producing, time-recording machine.
He's an artist, as much as a man who plays a violin or writes poetry.
The runner must be allowed to develop his running as an art form."
Forrest Jamieson, to Runner's World Magazine
"Booklet of the Month" No. 3
September 1971
Within the pantheon of track and field coaching legends, probably the name least
recognized today belongs to Forrest James "Jamie" Jamieson. Long-time observers of
the San Francisco running scene remember him as the "father" of local high school
distance running, having founded the first Peninsula cross country team at Palo Alto
(Paly) High in 1952. However, his influence cuts a much broader swath throughout
the pages of American recreational running. To best appreciate Forrest Jamieson's
impact, we shall return to his youth, to an era when the mile was the longest distance
run in high school track programs and cross country teams challenged marching bands
for halftime entertainment honors at Friday night football games.
****
Born in 1919 in Bend, Oregon (coincidentally - or maybe not - a current hotbed
of teenage running talent), Forrest moved with his family to the California Central
Valley town of Galt (near Sacramento) in 1925. Vast networks of criss-crossing
country roads provided fertile running venues; Forrest would soon develop 55-second
quarter-mile speed by running between telephone poles while delivering the Sacramento
Bee newspaper on his childhood paper route. After competing on Galt High’s first
cross country team in 1935, moving to the 880 yard and one mile “distance” events
during the spring track season was natural - and highly successful, since his
sit-and-kick tactics garnered a near-miss second-place finish in the mile run at
the 1936 California High School State Track & Field Championships.
It was during his prep track days that Forrest befriended a younger competitor
from nearby rival Stockton High. Many years later, editor and publisher Bert Nelson
would profoundly influence the world of track and field.
****
Graduation from Galt in 1937 was followed by two successful years as a
“do-everything” sprinter/middle-distance runner at Sacramento City College.
Forrest’s versatility as a 50 second quartermiler/4:30 miler/10-flat two miler
caught the attention of Franklin “Pitcher” Johnson, track coach at Drake University
who was recruiting in Northern California while interviewing for the head coaching
position at Stanford University (a job he was offered and did accept).
Johnson saw in Forrest the ideal relay specialist, a runner capable of handling relay
legs from the 440 distance on up while scoring occasional points in the open 880 and
mile. Forrest accepted the track scholarship offer; off to Des Moines he went.
****
Through his participation on Drake’s cross country team, Forrest became acutely
aware of the popularity of this autumn sport throughout the Midwest and East Coast.
(Indeed, Bill Easton - who became Drake’s head coach a year later - hailed from
Indiana, a state long embracing of harrier talents. Indiana University was twice
AAU national champion in the 1930s, also winning NCAA Division I titles in 1938 and
1940. Drake would later dominate collegiate cross country during the war years,
winning NCAA championships in 1944-1945-1946.) Forrest also recognized the important
carryover conditioning effects of fall turf running into the winter/spring track
season, which became clearly evident in the spring of 1941 when he helped lead Drake to
a relay circuit trifecta, winning the 4x880 relay at the Texas, Kansas and Drake Relays.
Drake was a member of the Missouri Valley Conference. Once a year, in early
spring, each conference school would hold a dual track and field meet with a local
non-conference school for the benefit of it’s freshmen, who were ineligible to compete
in all NCAA varsity sports at the time. To determine the best freshman team in the
conference, each school would mail (“post”) the results of each freshmen meet to
conference headquarters, which would then tabulate the results and announce the school
rankings and best marks. Years later these paper, or “postal” meets, provided the
inspiration for Forrest’s signature innovation as a distance running coach.
Forrest met and married his wife Ruth while at Drake; he graduated in 1943 with
his B.A. in Liberal Arts/English.
****
World War II beckoned; three years of naval service - first as an enlisted
chied petty officer, later as a commissioned officer - took Forrest on tours of
duty to New Caledonia, Okinawa, Pearl Harbor and other landmarks of wartime fame.
During this period, Forrest’s running background found him serving his country as
“Chief Athletic Specialist”, responsible for maintaining the physical fitness and
preparedness of his ships’ crews.
****
Putting ashore for good in 1946, Forrest enrolled in the San Diego State College
(later University) teachers’ accreditation program; he received his California teaching
credentials a year later. He served as an assistant coach on the track and field team
during this period.
Riding the initial shock wave of America’s post-war economic boom, Forrest
accepted his first teaching position at newly opened Chula Vista High School in
San Diego County. Here, in the fall of 1947, Forrest Jamieson launched his head
coaching career by founding the school’s (boys) cross country program.
Cross country was not new to Southern California. Contemporary records indicate
that Southern Section championships (including San Diego County schools, which did
not form their own section until 1960) date to 1926. However, few multi-team
invitationals were held, in part due to the paucity of high schools offering cross
country as an interscholastic sport. Rather, most races were dual meets, oftentimes
scheduled to start and conclude on tracks during halftimes of football games.
Effective? Probably. Demeaning? Forrest certainly thought so, and set about
to implement his own solution.
It seemed logical to him that a regularly scheduled series of meets, held at a
single racing venue central to all participating schools, was a more reasonable option.
Thus was born the “Center Meet”, an invitational meet held two or three times each
season, every year, offering each runner the opportunity to guage his progress over
the span of his high school running career. In the fall of 1948, following a year of
promoting and browbeating, Chula Vista hosted its first Center Meet on the grounds of
San Diego State College. As the post-war economic boom accelerated, more schools
opened and more cross country teams sprang forth; Forrest’s Center Meets flourished.
****
Coach Jamieson returned to Northern California in 1950 intent on pursuing his
Master’s Degree at Stanford University, but found himself instead consigned to naval
duties at to the onset of the Korean War. Forrest returned home in late 1951 to
resume his Stanford studies; by spring 1952 he was teaching and coaching track and
field at nearby Palo Alto High School. In autumn of that year, Paly had its first
cross country team.
Cross country on the San Francisco Peninsula was non-existant at that time.
Indeed, throughout the entire San Francisco Bay area, only Balboa, Poly (now closed)
and Lowell of San Francisco, Lincoln and Tech of San Jose, Hayward, Bishop O’Dowd
and El Cerrito in the East Bay, and Tamalpais in the North Bay are known to have
offered the sport following the war. Even Stanford University had no cross country
team. But it did have a beautiful, verdant, oak-studded golf course located midway
between San Francisco and San Jose. Just the perfect venue for a Center Meet.
With the assistance of Jack Weiershauser, then head track and field coach at
Stanford, Forrest convinced the University’s administration to open its golf course
each fall to the local high school harriers. These Peninsula Center Meets grew in
popularity to 1200 meet participants, eventually overwhelming the local golfing
community which persuaded Stanford to kick the kids off their course following
the 1963 season. Fortunately, through the dedicated efforts of former Carlmont
High coach Loren Lansberry and former College of San Mateo coach Bob Rush, a
permanent home nestled in the Belmont foothills overlooking the Crystal Springs
Reservoirs was secured, where the tradition of holding Center Meets on the last
three Thursdays in October continues to this day over the rustic, sepentine trails
of Crystal Springs International Cross Country Course.
And Stanford University, under new head track and field coach Payton Jordan,
reinstated cross country as an intercollegiate sport in the fall of 1956.
****
The decade of the ‘50s proved kind to Forrest Jamieson and his thinclads at
Paly. Winning and record breaking continued unabated, each success breeding an
ever-growing crucible of talented runners to continue the cycle. Two mile, four
mile and distance medley relay records and nation-leading times were the order
of the day. Paly’s cross country teams were consistent North Coast Section
champions, captained by a succession of elite harrier stars.
Great coaches beget great athletes; Forrest’s legacy will forever be linked
to the career of Ron Larrieu, arguably America’s first teenage distance running
prodigy (predating Gerry Lindgren by a decade). Ron Larrieu helped catapult
Palo Alto’s cross country team to national prominence while gaining personal
glory as Northern California’s Premier harrier throughout his junior and senior
seasons. However, Larrieu’s defining prep moment occurred on the track in late
March 1956 when - with virtually the entire San Francisco Bay area track
community in attendance - he raced two miles in 9:39.3, breaking the national
scholastic mark of 9:44.3 set 31 years earlier.
That effort was true history in-the-making, as it represents a clearly
defined launching point for recognition of the two mile run as a legitimate
and necessary addition to high school track programs throughout the country.
Until then, distance running on all levels in the United States was so
neglected that the 9:44.3 from 1925 was not even officially recognized in
the high school record books. Indeed, high school officials discontinued
the two mile run in the early 1930s following a decision to lower the prep
eligibility age limit from 20 to 19. They believed the strain of running
such a long distance was too much for a teenager to handle.
This process for acceptance of the two mile run was fully realized by the
1970s, when elite high school boys broke 9 minutes on a seemingly routine basis.
Ron Larrieu emerged in the early 1960s as one of the country’s top
distance specialists, ultimately representing the United States in the
10,000 meters at the 1964 Tokyo Olympic Games. In retrospect, Ron and
(younger sister) Francine Larrieu were true pioneers, standard bearers
for generations of American distance runners throughout the past four decades.
****
Paly’s wildly successful distance running program brought similar
recognition to its coach. The name Forrest Jamieson became synonymous
with winning and records on the prep level. He was respected nationwide
by his peers as a builder of character as well as a molder of champions.
Possibly the zenith of Forrest’s first decade as coach occurred in
June 1956 when Brutus Hamilton, Forrest’s close friend and CAL Bears head
track coach, chose him to chair the high school segment of the 1st
International Track and Field Coaches Clinic held on the UC-Berkeley campus.
Financing from the US State Department helped fly in coaches from around
the world, bringing international fame to all in attendance. The original,
unvarnished transcript of Forrest’s presentation, “Cross Country for High
School Coaches as I See It,” a 15-page distillation of his administrative
and coaching philosophies then extant, is included in this appendix.
****
By the mid-1950s, head coach Bill Bowerman had built the University of
Oregon cross country and track and field squads into national powerhouses.
Bowerman himself was gaining legendary status as a coach and technical
innovator, constantly tinkering with running surfaces and new shoe designs.
With stanford’s harrier program revived under Payton Jordon, Bowerman
brought his team to the Stanford Golf Course in the fall of 1957 - and his
first encounter with Forrest Jamieson. Their lasting friendship would soon have
profound implications on American recreational and competitive distance running.
****
Hungarian runners, under internationally reknowned coach Mihaly Igloi,
were all the rage in 1955-1956, setting and resetting world distance records
and winning major international races. A move was afoot following the 1956
Hungarian uprising to bring Igloi to the United States (which eventually did
occur) in an attempt to improve elite American distance running.
Forrest Jamieson had a different idea. If he could help runners such
as Ron Larrieu develop world-class talent, why couldn’t other high school
coaches throughout the country do the same? Seeking to further develop
American distance running talent at the grass roots level, while concurrently
promoting interest and participation in the sport of cross country, Forrest
began the process of organizing and promoting a nationwide series of “postal
meets”, two mile races run on tracks following the conclusion of the cross
country season.
This variation on postal track meets from his Drake years would determine
an unofficial national high school cross country team champion: simply total
up the times from the top five runners from each participating postal meet
team; the team with the lowest aggregate time would be the winner.
Standardized track surfaces and the two mile distance would ensure the
accuracy of this nationwide competition. Coaches from around the country
would mail or telex their team and individual times to a central reporting
body; results would then be tabulated and announced soon afterwards.
Forrest first approached SPORTS ILLUSTRATED - and was promptly sent
packing. A more sympathetic ear had to be found - and was, just a few miles
away in the adjacent town of Los Altos. There, Bert Nelson, Forrest’s former
high school rival, was editing a small, growing publication titled TRACK AND
FIELD NEWS, a magazine he co-founded with his brother Cordner in 1948. Nelson
readily agreed to promote Forrst’s postal meets. Postal meet directors would
mail results to TRACK AND FIELD NEWS, which would tally up the results and
report the top teams and individuals in its January issues.
Through this format, Forrest annually challenged the nation’s top high
school cross country teams to match the marks put up by his Paly squads.
With publicity offered through the magazine and the PALO ALTO TIMES newspaper,
the first two mile postal race competitions were launched throughout the
United States following the conclusion of the 1957 cross country season.
1957’s national winner was Morningside of Inglewood, CA in 50:25.5 (10:05.1
per runner); Paly placed second in 51:14.2. Paly’s John Northway took
individual honors in 9:47.0.
Within a few years, nation-leading marks dropped significantly below 50
minutes (sub-10:00 two mile average for five runners). Like the Center Meets,
postal competitions exploded in quality and popularity, rivaling sectional and
even state meets throughout the country for prominence as the “peak” meets of
the year. Eventually, schools competed in up to four postals yearly in an
attempt to beat competing marks. Even three?mile postal races were run during
the “boom” years of the late ‘60s and ‘70s. Again, Forrest’s instincts for
promoting and nurturing young American distance talent had proven right on target.
As the coup de’ grace, California officials finally added the two mile run
to the state track championship format in 1965.
****
By 1959, Forrest Jamieson had garnered a lifetime of achievements during
his twelve years of coaching. Seeking a change, and wishing to take advantage
of travel and teaching opportunities abroad offered through the State Department,
Forrest, Ruth and their three boys boarded the Pacific Orient Liner bound for
the South Pacific. This year-long sabbatical had been brewing for years,
stirred not only by Forrest’s interests in the region’s youth fitness programs,
but especially by the phenomenal performances of Australia’s elite middle
distance runners - Herb Elliot, John Landy, et. Al. - trained by mercurial
coach Percy Cerruty.
Before anchoring in Australia, the Pacific Orient berthed in New Zealand
for the first two months of the journey. While conducting coaching clinics
throughout Kiwiland, Forrest received word of a shoe cobbler in Auckland, a
former runner reknowned throughout this island nation for his revolutionary
coaching methods employed by the country’s top distance runners. Though
their first meeting was a bit icy and restrained, Forrest’s lifelong friendship
had begun with Arthur Lydiard, mentor to Peter Snell, Murray Halberg and many
others who would gain lasting fame a year later at the 1960 Rome Olympic Games.
Forrest was astounded to discover that, in this relatively small city of
Auckland (population 600,000), on a geographically isolated chain of South
Pacific islands, there resided a close-knit clan of some seven of the world’s
greatest distance runners, all living and training within a few miles of
Lydiard’s home. Equally impressive were the Auckland-area citizens’ “joggers
clubs”, encouraged and inspired by Lydiard to run 50-60 miles per week, just
for the health of it.
Forrest’s fortuitous introduction to Arthur Lydiard, a man now judged
to be one of the most influential figures in the history of distance running,
would challenge and dramatically alter his approach to training American high
schoolers. Their meeting would ultimately usher in a golden new era in the
annuals of American distance running.
****
Arthur Lydiard was a show cobbler by trade. In the 1950s, before Olympic
glory allowed him to cash in on his name, being a shoe tradesman was his
full-time profession.
Forrest remembered good friend Bill Bowerman’s show design tinkering
after meeting coach/cobbler Lydiard. Jamie wrote Bowerman, who corresponded
with Lydiard throughout 1960. In January 1961 Bowerman sent star miler Dyrol
Burleson down to New Zealand to compete on the Kiwi summer track and field
circuit and receive firsthand knowledge of the Lydiard training ssystem.
A year later, Bill Bowerman traveled to New Zealand to meet the now famous
coach of gold medalists Peter Snell and Murray Halberg.
Like Jamie, Bowerman was struck not only by Lydiard’s revolutionary
training methods, but by how certain of these concepts - specifically,
slow running over long distances, or “jogging” - were being used every
day by the local population. Upon returning to the US, Bowerman promoted
jogging as a health-enhancing exercise to the citizens in his hometown of
Eugene. To these track-mad fans, here was a way to vicariously experience
the activity they loved as a sport. Bowerman found himself preaching to
the choir; in short order, people of all ages were jogging around the
streets and trails of Eugene. Bowerman then wrote Jogging, which
described his ideas on slow distance fitness running. The jogging craze
in America had begun.
****
Oh yes, Bowerman’s shoe tinkering. It is unknown to this author
exactly what advice Lydiard offered in regards to shoe design. What
is known is that many years later, Bowerman’s outer sole “waffle” design
led to the formation of a small enterprise known as Blue Ribbon Sports.
In time, the company changed its name to a certain goddess of Greek
mythology; it no longer is a small enterprise.
****
Following his sabatical, Forrest returned to Palo Alto High School
and resumed his coaching duties in the fall of 1960. He remained Paly’s
coach through the spring of 1963.
Forrest parlayed his contacts in the State Department to further
international coaching assignments that continued throughout the 1970s.
Mexico, Papau New Guinea and New Zeaaland (several times) were
interspersed with teaching and coaching positions at St. Francis
High/Mountain View, Pt Loma High/San Diego, Terman Junior High/Palo Alto,
and a final stint as head coach at Palo Alto High in 1971-1973.
The Jamieson family moved to the San Diego area in 1973, where until
1984 Forrest worked six months each year in an administrative position at
the Del Mar Race Track. He spent the other six months coaching high
school and undertaking various state department assignments, usually in
the South Pacific, frequently New Zealand where he had developed quite a
following. In 1984, 37 years after founding Chula Vista High’s cross
country program, Forrest put down the whistle for what he thought would
be the last time. In 1987, Forrest and Ruth Jamieson “retired” to the
Central Valley town of Lodi, near his boyhood home in Galt.
****
However, by 1990, feeling an itch for coaching again that he just
couldn’t scratch away, Jamie signed on at Tokay High School in Lodi - but
not as a distance coach. Long aware of a camaraderie unique amoungst pole
vaulters, he volunteered his efforts as the school’s new pole vault
assistant. A year later, with the opening of Bear Creek High School in
north Stockton, Forrest accepted his last paid coaching position by starting,
for the third time in his career, the school’s cross country teams. The
somewhat sad and telling circumstances surrounding these two positions is
retold in the following reprinting of an article on Jamie which appeared in
the June 1991 publication of Joe Henderson’s Running Commentary.
To this day one can find Forrest Jamieson involved as ever, volunteering
his efforts as a timer at high school cross country competitions and as a
pole vault official at prep track and field meets throughout the Stockton-Lodi
region of California.
****
Technological innovations, changing population demographics, competition
for talent from other sports, Title IX, different training methods: these
factors and many others have dramatically altered the San Francisco Bay area
running landscape since Forrest Jamieson blazed the first trails back in 1952.
The (belated) 1987 introduction of California’s State High School Cross Country
Championships, plus huge mid-season interstate invitationals and the continued
success of the Kinney/Foot Locker National Championships begun in 1979, have
conspired to relegate most postal meets to the pages of history; postals were,
quite literally, victims of their own remarkable success. Center Meets live
on at Crystal Springs, though attracting only local entries as they compete
for talent with the hugely popular Stanford and Mt SAC Invitationals and other
meets drawing regional talent.
Forrest Jamieson’s singular goal was to improve both the status and quality
of distance running in the United States by starting at the grass-roots level
with the high school runner. The explosion in popularity of cross country and
two mile track racing in the 11960s and 1970s remains testament to his vision,
resourcefulness and unflagging determination. The popularity of jogging as a
fitness exercise, medically verified in Dr. Ken Cooper’s 1968 best-seller
Aerobics and by numerous other scientific studies before and since, can
be traced to the 1959-1960 conjunction of Messrs. Lydiard, Jamieson and Bowerman.
In many ways, this retelling of Forrest Jamieson’s career is the story of
the post-war “modern era” of distance running in America.
****
One minor but noteworthy item from the history books: it is recorded that
Forrest Jamieson captured second place in the mile run at the 1936 California
state championships. His time of 4:31.5 established a new Galt High School record.
Sixty years later, it still is.
”I don’t coach, I coax.
I don’t demand. I just try to persuade.
There’s a difference.”
Forrest Jamieson, to Runner’s World Magazine
“Booklet of the month” No. 3
September 1971
Appendix M
Article by Joe Henderson
Making the Past Last - Joe Henderson
Joe Henderson’s
Running Commentary
JUNE 1991 - ISSUE 189
Making the Past Last
Retirement was nicer to anticipate than to experience for Forrest
Jamieson. He came to dislike staying around the house all the time,
and his wife liked it even less.
So at age 70, Jamieson went back to coaching high school track this
year. He once was the Bill Bowerman of high school distance coaches - as
successful and innovative in his own sphere as the University of Oregon
coach was in his.
The distance job was taken at the school in Jamieson’s central
California town. So he volunteered to work with the pole vaulters.
He saw enough of the runners to grow irritated with their coaches.
“All they seem to do is yell at their kids,” he says. “From the results
I see, there isn’t much real coaching being done.”
If he tried to give a coach gentle hints on how to do the job
better, he got a “Who does this old guy think he is?” response.
The same question came up when Jamieson applied to coach the distances
at a new school opening this fall is his area.
In the interview, a track coach asked Jamieson if any well known
coach might recommend him. “Have you heard of Bill Bowerman?” Forrest
said. No.
“Do you know the name Arthur Lydiard?” No.
Jamieson didn’t expect anyone to remember him. But he was shocked to
learn that a man who earns his living by coaching drew blanks on these names.
They aren’t answers to trivia questions. Not knowing them probably
also meant that the interviewer also wasn’t aware of their methods - which
Jamieson began using 30 years ago and are just as sound today.
“Who have you coached?” Forrest was asked. He mentioned Ron Larrieu,
Francie’s older brother and an Olympian himself. The interviewer had
heard of neither Larrieu.
The interviewee finds this historical ignorance shocking. I don’t.
I’m not surprised by it; only disappointed.
This sport has left a long and easily followed trail of names and
numbers. But few of today’s runners care to explore it.
They could learn from baseball people. Theirs is the most
written-about sport, the one with the deepest history in this country
and the greatest reverence for it’s past.
Andy van Slyke of the Pittsburgh Pirates says, “I think it’s
important to know where the game has come from, where it’s been
and how it got where it is.”
I think that way about running. We can’t accurately judge what
is happening now without knowing what came before, yet we lack
baseball’s sense of history.
Statistics mark the trail of baseball’s past, yet running is a more
perfect sport statiscally. The quality of pitching and hitting
competition changes, but not the length of minutes and miles.
This is both the beauty and the curse of our sport. The beauty
because results from anytime and anywhere can be compared. The curse
because these comparisons can become too perfect - and painful.
In high school and college, I tried to interest teammates and
coaches in Track & Field News. They usually refused saying something
like; “It’s too depressing.”
They didn’t want to know how fast other people had run because
knowing it would cheapen their own results. Theirs was an intentional
ignorance.
For this reason, some runners and coaches still refuse to read
about the distant past in books or the recent past in magazines.
Without facts to disprove them, they can imagine they’re better than they are.
Forrest Jamieson sees this happening in high schools. Thirty years
ago, nine of his milers ran faster than the best one did this year at the
school where the coach didn’t know who Lydiard and Bowerman were.
It’s sad if this coach doesn’t know where times have gone, or doesn’t
want to know. You have to know what has been done to see what is possible.
Appendix N
Speech by Forrest Jamieson
Cross Country for High School Coaches as I See it
Forrest Jamieson Palo Alto (California) High
Forward
A lot of us coaches are as naïve as can be about this matter of getting
information from books by “authorities”, advice from experts, or simply
conversation with someone who has been successful. We expect to get just
about the same degree of fulfillment from such contacts as a person
expects to get when he confidently hands his druggist the doctor’s
prescription for medicine. Successfulness, I suggest, cannot be stated
in words by one person to be read by another with the expectation of a
100% translation as in the doctor druggists case. The variables, obvious
in coaching persons and not events, defy such simplification, yet many
coaches believe that such blueprints are to be found. With this in mind
allow me to state that what follows is most certainly not such a blueprint
nor is it even remotely intended to be such. This paper is intended to
serve as an “idea man” and it is hoped that what I have written will make
the reader so dissatisfied with the content that he will attempt to
explore the subject deeper and at a wiser source.
I have organized the material as I thought it might interest a high school
coach who knew little about cross country but who might like to give it a
try. I am dogmatic in much of what I offer as opinion and I willingly
admit that there are points that are debatable but this is not a doctoral
thesis wherein I would give all sides to the question. The title is not
an accident, although the paper could be; I would emphasize the “as I see
it” portion. I sincerely hope that you get something from this, if
nothing else, at least an argument for me to answer.
CROSS COUNTRY FROM AN ADMINISTRATION VIEW
A sport should not be introduced into the framework of any educational
institution unless its purpose can be justified to the satisfaction of
administrators, coaches, and participants. We shall divide our statements
into two parts; one expressing the purpose of cross country as it night
interest a coach. For the sake of clarity the question-answer device
will be used to present the ideas.
Question: “As an administrator I am interested in knowing exactly what
educational values such a sport has for the boy?”
Answer: Cross country is not a “glory-sport”. It would be unusual if
more than a few score spectators were to witness a meet. The appeal of this
sport has to be sold on a basis other than acclaim or popularity from the
spectator point of view. We believe that this is important from an educational
point of view.
Cross country is a sport where slow, careful building and faithful abherence
to training rules are accented. The boy under proper leadership soon learns
that he is not “doing the coach a favor” when he gives up smoking, late hours,
etc. He learns that he is often his own worst enemy. He learns to resist
the desire to quit. He learns to respect WORK. This is all to say
that the training program of such a sport can teach the participant the meaning
of self-discipline.
Cross country teaches self-confidence, with self-discipline and a respect
for work background servants. The participant learns that he is slowly but
surely building himself. He realizes that there is nothing sensational about this
growth, only that it is predicated on faithful adherence to daily training. We
will risk making the statement that this sport is usually the only sport on the
prep calendar that places more importance on consistent daily training than on
that usual common denominator of athletic success, natural ability. The confidence
that comes from this kind of experience is far different from that where
circumstance or “luck” in a contest enhances self-confidence.
Question: How can I best go about getting my principal to allow me to have a
cross country team?
Answer: High school administrators are a reasonable lot on the whole, but
whenever I think asking something of them I am reminded of a former commanding
officer that I had in the Navy. The minute that I stepped through the hatch
leading into his cabin he would shout “NO!” and then in a soft growl would follow
with, “Yes, Jamieson, what was it that you wanted?”. Very few of us drop in on
the boss to pass the time of day, we usually want something and there are a lot
of excellent school administrators that follow this philosophy - the answer is
“NO!” unless they can be convinced otherwise. What I am saying is that a good
many administrators are going to say that big NO just about the moment that you
walk through the door with a suggestion that cross country be added to the
school’s schedule of sports. You had better be prepared to convince the boss
that the answer should be something besides a no. To do this you had better
know something about this sport and something besides practical techniques;
you had better know why you want this sport in the program and why from the
standpoint of an educator, not just from a track coach’s viewpoint. The boss
can be sold, you know, even after he has said no!
Question: What are some of the arguments that you would use in attempting to
sell a reluctant or skeptical administrator the idea of adding cross country to
the school sports program?
Answer: I doubt that any high school coach could find a better opening argument
than the one that came out of Washington within this past year. I refer to a
special White House Conference dealing with the status of our national peacetime
physical fitness. The grave concern of our Chief Executive for the apparent trend
of our young people to become spectators instead of active participants is common
knowledge to all of us in education. Those of us that are in public education at
the secondary level are in the best position to answer this call to duty. Just
what is our duty? It seems to me that we ought to be searching for more ways and
means to offer wholesome, challenging athletic program; programs that will extend
athletic opportunity to new areas as well as extend the numbers of participants
involved. It is my humble suggestion that certain sports, such as football,
basketball, and baseball have reached a near-saturation point beyond which any
appreciable amount of numerical expansion is impractical. I say this because I have
witnessed athletic programs where mere school administration has placed a limit on
the number of teams (varsity-junior varsity-freshman-sophomore) and the number of
games that could be played. The nature of the other sports, baseball and basketball
places natural limits on the number of participants, etc. What we need is to
offer new sports that will be attractive to young people. Such a sport is cross
country. Its special appeal is that it extends opportunity to an entirely
different type of youngster This type of youngster defies being classified but
by and large it can be said that he isn’t the kind that is interested in football,
either because of temperament or body structure, or both. Usually this lad is
one that is neglected in the usual high school athletic program. The first three
lads across the finish line in the California State Mile run (Larrieu, 4:20.1; Neal,
4:20.4; and Monqingo, 4:20.8) all weighed less than 135 pounds!
Question: Who will coach cross country if the track coach has to coach football?
Answer: The most important part of the cross country program is the leadership
that is assigned to the sport. Usually the track coach is the one who will do the
best job of coaching the sport because it will benefit his program and he will be
able to translate the carryover from cross country to track the following spring.
If the track coach just simply cannot handle the team because of other fall sports
commitment, and if there is a former distance runner on the faculty who would do
the task all may go well. If the track coach isn’t particularly excited about cross
country it would be just as well to forget about instituting the sport in your
school. We say this reluctantly because there is always the chance that once the
coach gets into the sport he will gain some insight into what is involved, but this
is questionable. As much as we like cross country and would like to see it spread
about, it has been our experience that it is best not to have a program at all
unless the coach sees the purpose for such a program and knows how to interpret it
in terms of young high school students. It is not a sport to be assigned just
to anyone merely because he happens to be available for a coaching period at a
certain hour, etc. The program dies a quick death under such leadership.
Question: What would be wrong with coaching football and cross country at the
same time?
Answer: The above statement has suggested what our answer might be to this
question, but because there are so many coaches in small schools that have no other
choice but that handling both sports at one time, a comment should be made
concerning such a possibility. Our reaction is that the sport needs someone who
gives all of his time to this kind of coaching. Regardless of what others may
think coaching this sport involves leadership more than any other element.
Leadership cannot be effected when the leader is absent. Of course, you can
tell your men to do certain tasks and then walk off and leave them. Also, it
is true that any amount of running is going to be more constructive than none
at all. But the important thing is that you do not know your man and what his
peculiarities are unless you watch him over a reasonable period of time. This
is an individual sport and it involves a coach knowing each participant as well
as he can. The short answer to the above is, yes, you can coach both sports,
but do not expect too much from your cross country team, or better yet,
don’t expect to build much interest in your sport because cross country will
flourish only with personal coaching attention. It is too demanding a
taskmaster to expect youngsters who are taking an initial interest in the sport
to discipline themselves without careful, on the spot observant leadership. Yet,
some running in the fall is better than none at all, so if you can’t manage it
any other way, you have no choice but to hope that one of the participants will
offer the leadership.
Question: Won’t all this training, two months in the fall, and then almost
three months in the spring cause the participant to become stale?
Answer: The answer to this question is one that holds the key to the
whole matter of cross country and how practical it is for the high school
program. There are a good many people in the coaching profession that claim
to be concerned about overworking youngsters. They place age limits, time
limits, weight limits, and in general by their application of these limitations
suggest that it is necessary to keep an ever-careful eye out for that demon
coach who will “exploit” his charges and undermine their health by asking them
to do tasks that are too far above their capabilities, etc. This amounts to a
negative philosophy in that such restrictions are legislated to take care of
the boy who is in poor health. It is a philosophy of leaning over backward so
as to be careful not to harm anyone and in so doing this harms the great number
of youngsters who need a positive, yes, even aggressive type of program for
their physical development. Now this doesn’t mean that we are the “rugged
individualist school” that suggests “throw them in the water and let them sink
or ‘swim’. We do believe that youngsters today need to be more active in their
athletic lives because they are not engaged in anything approaching physical
labor in their home lives. For us to further this condition by over protecting
them amounts to a national crime on the parts of many of us who claim to be
‘physical education experts’”. The fact that we now have more boys today in
this country setting marks in running events than were ever thought possible
in the days before the automobile became so much a part of a high school boy’s
life is evidence that young people readily accept the challenge of hard training
and that there are coaches ready to preach the philosophy of work.
We believe that a youngster must be brought about slowly to realize that work is
the answer to much of his probable success. We usually tell our newcomers about
the man who lifted a new-born calf at birth and thereafter each day until some
months later he was amazed to note that he was able to lift a weight much greater
than he thought he was capable of lifting. So it is with cross country. We
start slowly and build a little at a time. After even two weeks the
participant is surprised to look back upon his first workouts which once seemed
“hard”, etc. What has this to do with going stale? Simply this. If a
careful base is built underneath a participant it is the best insurance against
him going stale that we know of, assuming that “stale” means to go
considerably beneath a certain established level of achievement. The more time
that is put into training lessons the possibility of a boy becoming a victim of
“staleness” which after all may be called a plateau of mental and physical
achievement. Mental attitude is extremely important to the participant of cross
country. He, the participant, must feel that he is achieving a growth of a
personal nature. Read the question on weight-lifting for a better illustration
of this point.
Question: What about an age limit concerning participation in cross country?
Answer: We would no more place an age limitation on participating in cross
country than we would on basketball, swimming, or regular track events. The
emphasis should be upon the leadership (coaches) not to ask a boy to run in a
competition that will discourage the boy. The boy just won’t be able to keep
up with a mature lad if he is immature. The damage that will be greatest will
be the psychological damage and not any physiological harm. The young lad just
stops running when he gets tired. We attempt to keep novice runners competing
in their own class to answer this.
CROSS COUNTRY FROM A COACHING VIEW
Question: How do you go about getting a team started if the sport is new to
your school?
Answer: In the first place don’t expect miracles in the way of results
the first year that you institute the sport. A lot of groundwork has been
already done for you in that the mile run is the favorite track and field event
of the American public (I’ll wager that more has been written in American sport
pages about the mile run and mile runners than about the four next most popular
track events and their record-holders).
A lot depends on what kind of opportunity one has to introduce the subject of
cross country. What we need is a short, documentary film on the history of the
mile run. Such a film could be shown before an entire student body and could be
followed up with a film on the importance of cross country training and relating
it to success in the distance and middle-distance events. Without this, however,
any kind of meeting is essential to spread this word. I have talked with junior
high students just prior to their entering our senior high school (they all know
about Landy, Bannister, and now Bailey). My talk is usually very general and not
technical at all; it is intended to inspire some youngster to accept the challenge
of running and to begin that challenge by going out for cross country in the fall
of the year. We must be salesmen! We must be proud of the product that we
are selling. Youngsters are waiting to be sold; they have been in contact with
indifference or with the attitude of mild interest that borders on indifference,
enough to know that or sense that it usually spells mediocrity. They want to
work with someone that has enthusiasm and who wants to help them do something for
themselves. Our youngsters are not the automobile-mad group that they
are so often presented to be in caricature. They are, by and large, ready and
willing to work and to achieve but they need someone that has confidence in what
he is doing and confidence in the ideal that young people are worth believing in,
etc. I had a splendid group of young men to work with this past year; they worked
as I doubt any other group of high school lads ever worked before, yet, if anyone
were to ask what they had in common, I would be forced to admit that they were such
individuals that the only thing that they had in common was that each one had his
own personal automobile! I cannot be convinced that the automobile routine that
we hear so much need be a negative problem for our young people.
The above brings us to the point - just what are we trying to sell as salesmen?
Are we trying to sell cross country because it is a necessary aid to building faster
milers, or are we trying to sell the sport because the President recently reminded
us that as leaders of young people we owe an obligation to our national welfare that
may be answered by offering the sport as a check against a growing tendency for our
young population to become less interested in athletic competition? I would not
refute the fact that either of the two above reasons are important within certain
narrow, restricted viewpoints, but I prefer to believe that I am a salesman of
SELF-CONFIDENCE, SELF-DISCIPLINE, AND RESPECT FOR HARD WORK to young people who
need these commodities very desperately in this highly competitive society
of ours.
Oh, yes, what are the specific ways to get men out? Posters, talk to youngsters in
P.E. classes. One year I waited at the bicycle rack in the morning and asked each
lad how long he had been riding his bike. I am not sure that there is any great
correlation between bicycle riding and cross country success but by asking some of
the boys and telling them that I was looking for lads that were active I came up
with a few ideas.
The bicycle idea is almost a desperation method, I admit, but someone starting out
may find it useful. It is strictly a first year measure as far as I’m concerned.
Now that I am in the regular physical education department I have better
opportunities to watch out for potential candidates. Another item, and one
that I had nothing to do with starting, has to do with a practice that we have
in our physical education classes. We have a pre-conditioning period of some
two weeks for all of our classes. After a doctor’s check-up the first week of
school we start all of our lads through a certain basic program of conditioning
and classifying them. One of the things that we require is for them to do some
running because it is obvious that any physical activity is predicated on a
running base. We have a short period of calisthenics and then we have them run
around a certain area (in our case a 540 yard practice field) and ask them to
run for two minutes without stopping, if they can. In this way we do not
insist upon a certain distance, but merely blow the whistle at the start of the
two-minute period and blow the whistle again at the end of the period. We very
purposely refrain from setting any limits or minimum requirements in these
“warm-up” runs. The idea is to be as permissive as possible because you will
have some lads in the class (the very stout lads, etc.) that will not take to
running because of a traditional dislike for running as such. We have discovered
that about ten percent of the class will be conscientious and will put everything
into they are asked to do. These boys will compete at every opportunity and
these are the boys that you should be on the lookout for in such a P.E. activity.
We usually increase the time limit from two-minutes up to three and then by the
end of the pre-conditioning period a four minute period of continuous running.
The boys that don’t care too much about competing may still be walking and
running at the initial two minute rate at this time. I have discovered some
very talented youngsters with this kind of set-up, but not 100% recruiting.
I usually mention cross country to these lads that do well, but the very name
“cross-country” frightens them and I know that there is a lot of talent that we
are not utilizing. If you have such a program it will be very productive in
its selectivity by and large.
The best method of getting youngsters out takes place after you have established
the sport and this involves the members of the cross country team doing the
recruiting for you. They usually are in a much better position to know all
elements of cross country requirements after a year on the team and they also know
their peers better than you do and can fairly accurately judge whether a lad can do
the physical work required and whether he has the proper mental potential. Of all
systems of selectivity I consider this most effective. The only thing that the
coach need do is to constantly be after the members on the team to get new members.
I will be starting out again to build again this year (five out of my first seven
cross country men were seniors) and I am thinking seriously of setting up a special
award for the member of the team that can bring in the most recruits, etc.
Question: Where do you work out if you do not have a park nearby?
Answer: The best answer to this depends on a lot of things. First, if it is
possible, you should attempt to find a place that will afford your runners a soft
running cushion underfoot. This will be explored in another question but suffice
to say that it is desirable if you can obtain it. If you can’t have it, then try
the next best thing, of course. We use the outside perimeter of a large football
practice field. We don’t get in the way of the football players, nor they in ours
because we use only the outside area --- the grassiest area outside. If you have
no other place the inside of your football field will be sufficient although it
would be ideal if you could use a park where there is a long stretch of grass or a
meadow and gently rolling terrain, etc., but only one high school in a hundred is
located so fortunately. One thing is certain, a coach that is determined to have
cross country will have the sport no matter what discouraging obstacles appear on
the surface, and on the other hand, the indifferent coach will allow the best
facilities to go-awasting!
Training for cross country is one thing, you can train during the week on the high
school football practice field, but where are you to hold your cross country runs.
If you hold them on the school grounds proper the chances are that you will have
to keep circling a lot to prevent the course from crossing paved streets, etc.
Some coaches tell me that the only way to make cross country attractive is to hold
the meets on the school grounds proper and have them start and finish before and
during the halves of the home football games. This, they argue, allows more
persons to witness the spectacle and enhances interest in the sport. I violently
disagree with such reasoning, personally, and for the following reasons. I feel
that by having cross country offered at half-time to a football game you are
placing cross country in the position of being a poor man’s sport, another form
of entertainment to compete with the song-leaders and pon pon girls for attention.
In offering the sport within such a framework you place an importance upon the
spectator value of the sport. Cross country is not intended to be a spectator
sport -- that is one of the items that dignifies the sport as being something
different and apart from such sports as football and basketball. Cross Country
deserves its own special atmosphere and that special atmosphere is not
necessarily built around spectators or the lack of them. In this section of
California we have instituted what we call “cross country centers”. A cross
country center is a special locale that is especially adapted to the aims of
cross country running. It offers a changing scenery, run over a grassy surface,
with only slight, rolling hills, etc. We asked various golf courses to allow us
to hold a cross country center meet once a year (Stanford University offers their
facilities to Northern California high schools on four different occasions),
usually on a Thursday. We have as many as twelve to fifteen schools attend
these centers and have the competition broken into different categories
(Varsity-junior varsity, and Freshman-Sophomore) and into different heats.
By scheduling different centers in different geographical areas we are able
to have as many as 700 participants viewing on a single Thursday afternoon.
By not asking any one golf course to put up with the kind of organized chaos
that such an affair entails we can usually expect to find a fair number of
locales brave enough to chance us on such an infrequent basis. We feel that
having across country meet on such courses and with such an atmosphere of
interest (In some cases, almost two hundred cross country runners at one
center) the cross country athlete feels a pride in his sport and a feeling
of dignity that could not be had if he were part of a second-hand spectacle
such that he would be running during the half of a football game.
Question: How do you get them started once you get them out?
Answer:As we mentioned before a principal object in cross country coaching is
to get young people to gain insight into what their own real capabilities are, ie.,
self-confidence. We start out with an easy program. We usually ask these
lads to run 4-4-4 arrangement with light weight lifting interspersed in the first
rest period and rope-climbing in the second rest period. By 4-4-4, I mean that we
ask them to run four minutes without stopping. No special pace and no special
distance to cover, yet you should put them over a measured course instead of letting
them to run about aimlessly any old direction. After the first four minute period
you have a 20-25 minute rest period before attempting the second four minute period
of continuous running. The same 20-25 rest period between the second and third
(or last) four minute session is recommended to start with. As stated before, we
have them push weights during the first rest period and climb the rope during the
second rest period. What weights do we ask them to lift? We ask them to lift
the bar bells with 45-55 pounds as many times as they can before they start to
strain or use their legs to "kick" up the weight. Then they stop, pass the
weight on to another mate (I have three sets of bar bells and plan to get more)
who does likewise. Each person should press these weights in sets of three and
with the number of repetitions determined by his first non-straining effort
(first set). The weight should be completely locking and unlocking with each
repetition. We do not want the lad to strain in doing these because we are
interested only in building muscle tone and not in building the size of the
muscle. By doing them fast and without strain he should achieve muscle
tone. Even without an attempt at doing these repetitions with training
effort the lad will naturally build up his repetition-count over a period of days.
The rope climb is another item that we believe in because it also builds two sided
strengths (being right-handed or left handed is fine for football, basketball, or
baseball players, but in running one uses the left side of his upper body as much
as the right side and fatigue will creep in wherever the body is weakest) and thus
shores up the part of the body that most runners neglect.
We keep pushing up the total minute count up a little. We do not set up an
unrelenting schedule of progression because we may find that a certain day is too
humid for a tough workout and we will relent from our goal of ever-increasing
running requirements for a day or even two or three days. We wouldn't have all
the boys moving at a lock-step pace either. Some boys might be on a pattern of
8-8-6, while some of the slower developers would be 6-6-4, etc. We have stated
often enough that we believe in work, yet we hasten to add at this point that the
amount of work done must always be a matter of judgement on the coach's part. That
is why a coach must always be a matter of judgement on the coach's part. That is
why a coach must always be on hand -- so that he may be able to observe and by
experienced observation gain insight into the capabilities of his boys. The more
that he is around them the more he learns about their potential and limitations,
etc. Last year we had what I honestly consider to be the best high school cross
country unit ever to represent a secondary school in the history of our country.
We were running 14-12-14 sets in December. I should explain that as time goes
on and you progress from the original 4-4-4 plan you begin to "put the screws on"
little by little. You ask that they cover a certain distance, you add more
minutes to their elapsed running total time, you cut down or compress the
rest-period intervals. Mainly you are interested in the amount of mileage they
cover along with the amount of total elapsed time. You want them to near the
end of the cross country season to cover at least five miles of distance in at
least 30 minutes of running. Add to this the little game of modified touch
tackle that we play after each workout and you have somewhat of an idea of what
we do in the fall.
Question: Just how important is a grass surface for training as compared with
training on a track?
Answer: The idea of running on the grass for training and for cross country
is certainly not a new one; not even a modern one, but the Swedish athletes were the
first to use a system (Fartlek) that made an issue of this point. Other training
programs have endorsed this principle and I am certain that there isn't a worthwhile
training program that doesn't insist upon grass or soft surface as a must in its
basic tenets. I first read about Fartlek in Track and Field News in 1949 and ever
since that time I have a great subscriber to this practice. We do not run ANY kind
of practice on the running track anymore. I mean exactly that -- none! The only
time that our boys run on a track is the day of a meet. I usually attempt to put
over this idea to the boys by pulling out a rubber band and calling their attention
to it. I'll say:
"See this rubber band? (Stretch rubber band until it becomes quite taut). How long
do you suppose that this band will last if I keep this tension on it? Fairly long,
eh? Well, how much longer would it last if I were to do this to it (loosen the
rubber band until it becomes slack and then tighten it again, repeating the process
of tightening and loosening it while talking)? It will last many more times as long
if I give it even brief opportunities to recover its elasticity, won't it? So it is
with your leg muscles. Running on a softer, more resilient surface will allow the
muscle a better chance to recover than if required to work constantly over a harder
surface."
It has been my experience with young boys that leg troubles are a main factor in
impeding progress -- what I mean is that the younger the runner the more important
is this factor of leg trouble, etc. I have noticed less leg troubles and a greater
ability to absorb more work assignments; hence a noticeable gain in strength over
an ever shorter period of time than when I trained them over harder running
surfaces. I discovered that the muscle could take a much greater percentage of
work depending on when the last time the grassy practice field was watered. When
it dried out just a little the boys would start to complain. Now we welcome the
day that the maintenance man waters the football field with adjoining track or the
practice field. We used to worry about him getting the running track too wet with
a runaway sprinkler, etc., now he can't get the grassy area too wet -- well, not
quite, anyhow.
A young man from a small high school north of here just ran a 1:53.8 half-mile in
our recent State Meet. This is a remarkable time for any lad but some of the
coaches thought it was all the more exceptional because the lad's high school didn't
have a running track! I claim that it was the best thing that ever happened to that
young man. He was forced to run over a fairly good growth of grassy surface for his
daily training program. I don't know where the lad will attend college or
university but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that he will come up with his first
leg troubles when he attends some well equipped school!
Another thing that I have observed is that running barefooted is not such a bad idea
if you have a surface that will allow it. I can't tell you why I believe that this
is a good training device, but four of my top five distance runners seemed to get
some value from it. It could be that the canvas and rubber type warm-up shoes
create too many blisters or at least tire the feet in someway. This year we did a
lot of running and it was a rare workout that involved less than five miles of
workout. This added work probably made their feet tougher? Anyhow I know that they
seemed to enjoy running barefooted than with the traditional type footwear. Of
course you must realize that we do run over a very well grassed area that is free of
glass; it is nothing like crossing a wheat stubble field barefooted but after three
months or so of this running the feet do get rather callous.
Question: Just how practical is all talk about weight-lifting for distance runners;
in other words, is this just another "fad" or is there really something to it?
Answer: We believe that there are tremendous training possibilities to be found
in weight-lifting for training distance men. However, it isn't a subject that can
be covered without considerable background.
One has to be acquainted with the effect of the European training psychology that
started with Fartlek and is being reinforced by Stampfl. We cannot condense all of
the important principles of distance training into a few sentences. It has taken
over a decade for some of them to be tried and tested and in attempting to describe
these ideas by simplifying them causes a lot to be lost in the translation, if what
follows could be called a translation. We should say, however, that the greatest
change in training distance men took place when the emphasis on coaching changed
from one coach telling a participant everything about his training schedule to one
where the coach became almost a manager and the participant became his own coach in
many respects. The coach became an advisor and not "the know it all" and the
participant becomes more self-sufficient and dependent upon his own intellect, etc.
Fartlek, was a beginning of the self-discipline type of training that the Swedes
startled the world with their Gunder Hagg, etc. The English have mass-produced a
kind of training that has borrowed some from Fartlek and added some new principles.
All of these European training devices or training schemes have this in common. The
participant believes in the value of careful building. He believes in himself
rather than in a coach or "expert". He builds up a feeling of self confidence at
the same time that he is building himself physically. The strongest point in the
European system of distance training has to do with this idea of the runners
attitude.
The question above has to do with weight-lifting and how practical it is or is not
to high school lads. This is how it fits in with the European principles. Most
young boys have already determined their running potential by the amount of activity
that they have known in the first thirteen or fourteen years of their lives. This
is true only up to a certain point, of course. If a youngster has been sickly and
therefore relatively inactive as regards to normal playground activities, etc, the
chances of his being able to withstand the physical or psychological demands of a
hard-work program are slight. If the youngster has been at least normally active
during his infant, early childhood, grade-school days there is every reason to
believe that a careful building program will prove challenging while at the same
time effective and beneficial. Each youngster is different, as we all know, and
some may achieve more "naturally" than others. Some lads differ not only in
physical equipment but also in their own awareness of their potential. It is the
coach's task to not only build the physical powers of his charges but also to help
his charges become aware of their, you might say, "hidden" strengths. This cannot
be achieved by assigning all of the members of your group the same kind of work,
day after day. All that this does is to allow the coach to observe who has the best
physical powers by the mere use of a stop watch and that is something that even a
sophomore manager could do well. What the coach wants to do is to get the various
individuals to become aware of some of their strengths. Many of them have abilities
that they never dreamed of. Weight lifting is a useful device to get some of the
youngsters to realize this insight o self-confidence. Let us explain how we use
weight-lifting in our cross country training. We first start the boys out by having
them cover a lot of territory by alternating walking and running. The next day
we hope that they will report that they are a little sore so that we may tell them,
"Good, that's what we like to hear, now we know it's doing some good, etc".
We don't want them to be too sore, just enough to satisfy them that they have done
something. We always try from the beginning to laugh off the complainer and the
whimperer so that the men soon get the idea that complaining is not in keeping with
the group spirit. We have found that it is always wise to have a little game of
"touch" football before giving up the day. It is something that most of them will
look forward to and it has its own method of madness too. We play a kind of
game which requires a lot of running. We choose sides and have what amounts to a
game of man-to-man touch football. We do not allow the passer to be rushed and this
allows him to wait until someone is in the clear before he throws the ball.
Sometimes the passer will wait five minutes or more before he sees someone clear
enough to throw to. Because we do not want and physical contact we do not allow any
blocking and a "one-hand-touch" anywhere on the body keeps down the possibility of
injury. This game is used in the middle of the season when the boys have covered
three or five miles of workouts. It is enlightening to see these boys really run
pell-mell who only ten minutes or so before complained about the routine workout.
The moment that THEY become aware that they are doing this after a difficult workout
is the moment that they begin to realize confidence in themselves. We have weights
out for the boys and tell them weight-lifting is essential to running because we run
with our entire body not just our legs. Tiredness in the shoulders can make a
runner stop a lot sooner than tiredness in the legs, etc. We keep a chart on the
number of times that he (the participant) does each weight-lifting operation. We
point out to him that most of us are stronger in the legs that we are in the
trunk and for this reason we want to work on the part of body that fatigue will
attack first. Naturally each boy will be able to do certain things at a
certain rate. We are not concerned with the figure other than to point out to the
individual that as each day passes he is getting stronger and stronger. We know
that he will gradually improve with the weights because it is a tangible and
measurable thing it is something that a youngster can understand and interpret.
He will also progress with his ability to run further each day at an increasingly
faster rate. With this careful supervision of the coach the participant that is
just starting out will begin to have confidence in himself. It is not that the
weight-lifting and running have done so much for him physically as it is that
psychologically he is now beginning to become aware of his own strength. You as
a coach could talk to him all day about how strong you think he is, etc, but it will
never have the impact that the self-knowledge would give. So, in a few words,
weight-lifting, as we use it, has its greatest value in that it unleashes the doubt
and lack of confidence that so many lads have. You do not give them a special
"trick", you merely place in THEIR hands the key that should unlock their real
abilities. The pathetic thing about many of the boys that we have is that they
have this strength, have had for a time, are not aware of it, would not believe
anyone who might by pure luck suspect that they have it and told them about it,
etc. Weight-lifting, rope-climbing, push-ups, pull-ups, leg-lifts, all of these
things can be used by the coach to realize the important ingredient of
SELF-CONFIDENCE which is the most important factor in each cross country
participant's degree of success.
Question: What do you recommend in the way of teaching style to either cross
country or distance men?
Answer: I am not a devotee of "form" running. (At least not for high school
athletes.) I have listened to coaches yell at their men to do one thing or another
with their arms, body lean, etc, but I am personally convinced that they are harming
their charges instead of helping them. I have a lot of faith in the ability of
the human body to compensate if it is given enough time to. Whenever I have a
sophomore quarter-miler or a distance man that appears to be violating some precious
tenet of what we as coaches consider to be "correct" form or orthodoxy I try very
hard to keep my mouth shut for the time being. I usually wait until the cross
country season following that track season before I expect to get results concerning
the best "form" from such obvious violators. It is my opinion that if you have
a boy run enough miles he will come up with an economical style of
running -- economical to him. How many of you remember Gil Dodds and his threshing
machine style? They tell me that Zatopek is another that defies the believers and
orthodoxy. If a boy does enough running, and if a boy has normal powers of
adjustment he will learn of himself to use his equipment with an efficiency
adjustment ability that defies such absurdities as coaches "teaching" style.
I believe that if you have a boy run enough miles over a period of time and under
enough conditions wherein he will have had sufficient opportunities to test his
adaptive powers he will come up with the best and only style suitable for him.
Style is something that we as coaches ought naught to fool with as much as we do.
If we were to get our charges to work more and put in more time on the event the
matter of style would absolve itself in many cases. I know that the purists of
form will insist that an error has to be corrected as soon as possible and the
"right" form instilled thereafter. The people underestimate the capacity of the
human body to compensate. I say forget about style in running, just get them
out there and keep them running, running, running!
Question: Just what kind of training do you use during the early months of spring
just before the season starts, etc?
Answer: We start the boys all over again with the same kind of work that they
originally started the cross country season with early in the fall. The only
difference is that we don't go as far back as 4-4-4. We probably will be doing a
10-12-10 after they have a week of just running about getting adjusted from a 4 to
6 week layoff over the end of cross country and the start of the spring season. The
same theories are followed; all the work on grass; absolutely no work on speed as
such. We institute a kind of modified Fartlek-type exercise that we run on the
inside of our quarter-mile track. This is possible for us because we have a level
infield of grass inside the curb of our track. Thus we "make" another track on
this inside curb by setting off about six feet in from the curb all around the oval
and setting off the area with hurdles and use it in the same fashion as the "inside"
track of sawdust and soil that you see here at Edwards Field. It is around this
inside "grass" track that we run our modified Fartlek-type exercise. This
exercise consists of eight minutes of continuous running. We start them off
a whistle and have them run two minutes at a certain set, moderate pace; at
two minutes I blow the whistle and they are to sprint at top or near-top
speed for about fifty yards, after which they are to return to their own
previous pace; of before the sprint; they do this again at four minutes,
that is sprint for fifty yards, then return to pace; again at six minutes
for the third and last sprint and back to normal pace until eight minutes at
which time they have completed their exercise. We used to think it was
unusual for a boy to cover six laps in eight minutes and because of this the
boys on their own formed a "white cap" club. To become a member of this club a
runner had to be able to do six-laps in eight minutes in the manner described;
once a member the runner had the right to wear a white cap to practice. The
six-lap or "white-cap club" has become so cluttered with new members that the
boys are now talking of making it a 6.5 lap requirement for membership. This
year our top six cross country boys covered over 6.5 laps and we had 12
members in the white-cap club altogether.
We also use a golfmeter (a pedometer designed to measure the distance of
golfers drives on the golf course in terms of yards). We place one of these on
a boy and (place it on his hip after making a standard adjustment over a 440 track
at his approximate cross country stride) encourages him to see how much yardage he
can roll up in 10, 15, or 20 minutes. We are going to get a number of these and see
if we can't get some kind of game involving sides or team competition using these
instruments as a stimulus, etc. Anything that can be made into a challenging and
interesting game helps to sell the training program.
I am whole heatedly a believer in over-distance type of training as opposed to the
under-distance type of training. I would have the milers running two miles for
time before timing them in a mile run, if that is their event. I would have a
half-miler run a mile before going down to the half, etc. We do not work on speed
as such and yet we have never noticed that speed was missing from our performances
in actual competition. In early March of this year we had Ron Larrieu (State CIF
mile champ at 4:20.1) run a 5,000 meter race in 15:24.0. He passed the 3-mile mark
in 14:59 and wound up with considerable speed as the time differential for the 188
yards indicates. That Friday we put him in a 440 event and had him run 220's. His
quarter time was 50.7 and his 220 a 22.5. A week later between running two-mile
races in 9:39.3 and 9:39.0. Larrieu ran 440's in our regular dual meet engagements
in 50.1 and 50.4. (he ran a 22.3 furlong, also). This lad's fastest time the year
before was over 52.0 and 23.8 for 220. We didn't give him anything but
over-distance, no speed work of any kind; he would run these short races in the dual
meets and train over long hauls only. This was essentially the same experience for
four of our other top lads. Tom Cathcart (4:25.2 mile, 1:57.2 880, 9:56.0 2-mile)
ran a 52.0 440 not many days after his 9:56.0 two-mile stint. John Morrison (4:28.3
mile, 2:00.9 880, 9:51.8 2-mile) was the shortest one on speed with a 53.2 quarter
but he ran that when we were running over-distance just before starting into
interval running in April. I have an idea that John would have been under 52 if
we'd tried him just before the State Meet. Dean Saterlee (4:40 - 1:59.2) ran his
fastest 440 (50.9) soon after training over long-distance. Satterlee wasn't with us
until January in as much as he transferred to us from another school mid-way in his
senior year. We started him on our over distance diet in January and he responded
very well to it. Bill Whitson (4:36.8 - 2:01.5) was the only junior in the group
and the only one that didn't really run a 440 time that his distance times would
promise (53.4) but his is still growing and I have to remember that Larrieu's time
at Bill's age was a 56.0 440, etc. We had two other lads in school that ran miles
in 4:45.0 or over, and a 14 year-old lad who ran a 3:22.8 1320 yard race. They all
seemed to flourish under the long-distance approach.
Question: What are some other considerations that have an especially important part
to play in high school cross country training?
Answer: I don't know of any single item more important than work unless it is rest
after that work! Remember, we are now talking about cross country for high school
lads that are in the process of growing. They must understand that sleep and rest
are not like a bank where they deposit and draw out hours of sleep as if it were
like a checking account. High school boys in the United States lead very active
social and academic lives and a trying athletic life added to these two makes
getting enough rest a problem. The fact is that they can get rest but it is an
item that cannot be overlooked in a discussion of training boys in our country.
The coach should make an effort to look into the rest habits of each of his
men -- he will forestall a lot of future illness if he does this. Another item
that I insist on is that all of the boys get to bed early the night of the
afternoon that they compete. I repeat, the night of the day that they
run -- not the night before the race. Boys that are tired and who stay up late
when they are tired are placing their physical fitness in jeopardy. I constantly
hammer on two items, WORK and REST.
Question: How do you account for the fact that some schools and coaches get little
continuity out of cross country programs for spring track use?
Answer: This means that a man did well in cross country but never accomplished
as much in track as his work in cross country indicted he might, right? Well, there
are a number of things to consider. Let us take examples of whole teams rather than
of individuals if we want to give one reason. Sometimes the cross country coach in
fall is not the same person who has them in the spring. A lot of coaching insight
is lost with this lack of coaching continuity. How about a special case of a boy
not doing well in the spring after doing well in the fall? In almost every such
instance you will find that such a lad is one that is lacking in speed ability.
You will find the opposite true in more cases than this one just mentioned -- a lad
becomes good in spring track after a not-so-hot cross country season. This last
year the best in four important CIF sections met on one course so that times and
efforts could be compared. I have listed the top ten and their best mile and/or
880 times, and then for comparison I have listed ten lads outside the first ten who
did very well in spring track. These marks involve Northern California lads only,
and I am certain that a check of Southern California records would closely duplicate
these listed below.
Rank Name XC Time Mile/880
---- ---- ------- --------
1. Larrieu 10:12 4:20.1/1:57
2. Jent (Jr) 10:16 3:15.5 (1320)
3. Chavez (Jr) 10:17 4:32.0
4. Beardall 10:17 4:34.0
5. Eisenman 10:17 4:28.7
6. Belcher (Jr) 10:21 1:56.6
7. Cloe 10:21 4:22.8
8. Hammond (Jr) 10:21 4:23.8
9. Cathcart 10:21 4:25.2/1:57.2
10. Morrison 10:22 4:28.3
13. Spillman 10:28 4:24.5
26. Lee (Jr) 10:43 3:16.9
28. Woods 10:45 1:58.5
33. Wallace (Jr) 10:50 4:25.2
36. Brown 10:50 1:54.4
37. Dorsey 10:51 47.3
43. Ray 10:55 1:58.3
53. Wood 11:01 1:54.6
Question: What practical things can we do to achieve an optimum in high school
coaching?
Answer: We can do one thing that is very important in my opinion. We can stop
being our athletes worst enemy! We had better stop talking about a 4:20.0 mile like
it was something to boast about. It isn't! English lad of 18 can do much better
than our boys because they have really put a different approach to running into
effect. Ron Clarke of Australia ran a mile in 4:06.0 and a 8:56.0 2-mile while an
18 year old lad. Let's stop talking about the two-mile as if it were a form of
social disease. Let's have a few of these races during our season (track season).
A two mile run for high school lads is the next logical step in our development.
We know that it is the only race for certain younger runners that don't have speed.
We have to resist the people who claim that a long race is tougher on a young lad
than a shorter more intense distance. This is not the truth and we all know it.
We need to have more and more distance relay marks activated into the framework of
interscholastic recognition. If we are to make distance running attractive we
should have several relay events offered up for national recognition that
involve at least a mile as one of the distances. I suggest that we offer more
relays such as the distance medley (440-880-1320-mile) and the four-mile relay as
events in our relay meets. At the present time the two-mile relay is the longest
distance event that the National Federation recognizes formally -- we can hardly
build distance interest without providing for our high school milers in some
relay event, can we?
We need to provide our youngsters with opportunities to learn about the sport in
other ways than by our contact with them. I have found that Track & Field News is
a terrific motivator of interest. The lads pick up the language of track and field
in no time after reading this track man's monthly bible. The contests that Track
and Field News puts on has caused about 20 lads on my squad to buy this paper and
I am certain that about 15 to 20 of my squad will be up here to watch the meet
Saturday because Track and Field News build-up of the meet over the past 3 issues.
A high school coach would do well to introduce this little paper into his sports
library as a professional tool.
Appendix O
Peninsula 'Track' Revolution - SF Chronicle
Chronicle Sporting Green
San Francisco, Monday, February 16, 1959
Peninsula Track "Revolution' Proves U.S. Not Soft
By Darrell Wilson
A revolution (bloodless) in distance running is taking place these winter months at
Stanford's Angell Field. Australia's Herb Elliott, world record holder, has said
that Americans are too soft for distance running. The Russians have said the same
thing and have tried to prove it with a state-supported, regimented program which
has produced iron lungs and steel legs. The Soviets have used their worldwide
domination in distance running and some other Olympic Games events as part of a
propaganda campaign about the softness and decadence of Americans.
But Bert Nelson, a man who is better known in Helsinki, Finland and Moscow, Russia,
than in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, is in strong disagreement. "Americans aren't soft,"
insists Bert. What's more important, Nelson, Forrest Jamieson, Palo Alto High School
track coach, and Payton Jordan, boss of the Stanford trackmen, have started to prove
the point with a weekly series of winter all-comers track meets at Angell Field.
The results have been so good, in this small section of America, that it's
possible -- even probable -- that the experiment may prove democracy's answer to
regimented teams. Nelson is publisher (his older brother, Cordner, is editor, of
the Track and Field News -- the world's "track bible." Nelson says:
"The problem has been that we haven't been training the year round. This is the
first time in the history of the United States that a full winter program has been
held. It's a revolution in distance running. We've had such good luck -- the kids
seem to love the running -- that we've had inquiries from all over. I think the
idea will spread. And I believe that's all we need to develop great distance
runners."
The Peninsula statistics are interesting. The combined population of San Mateo and
Santa Clara counties is roughly one million people. But this area has produced 15
high school boys who have run the mile under 4:30. (Most State high school mile
championships outside California are won in times well over 4:30.) San Jose
(Lincoln High) produced America's only sub-four-minute miler in Don Bowden.
In a routine all-comers meet Saturday, George Linn, 17, of Palo Alto ran a 9:31.4
two mile, third best in US prep history, and Bill Yaley of Serra clocked 9:32 for
the fourth best effort. (Tom Laris, Washington of NYC has the best prep two mile of
9:21.3 and Bob Buchanan of Stillwater, OK is second with 9:30.7). The seed for
these tremendous Peninsula efforts was planted by Jamieson. Nine of the 15 boys who
have clocked under 4:30 have been Jamieson's Palo Alto products. Jamieson's
influence has spread throughout the Peninsula, to other Northern California high
schools (he started the Northern California cross country championships.)
According to Dink Templeton, former Stanford coach who now tutors the Olympic Club
and is a world-wide authority, Jamieson's influence has also resulted in increased
Pacific Coast collegiate interest in cross country. Keith Wallace, a Stanford
sophomore who is a product of the increased interest in prep cross country races
clocked a fine 9:09.3 two mile Saturday and should make his mark in spring and
summer meets.
Four Peninsula preps have exceeded 4:26 for the mile this winter in the all-comers
meets. They are Linn and Dave Chilton, another Palo Alto star, at 4:22.4; Yaley,
4:23, and Dave Boore, Los Altos, 4:25.6.
If the Peninsula program should spread to other sections of the country -- and
Nelson believes it will -- the pleasant Herb Elliott may be forced to eat his
unpleasant words about the softness of Americans.
Appendix P
Appendix Q
High School Records (Old Course 2.25m)
Old Crystal Springs (2.25m) - 1966 thru 1969
Carey, Chris Carl 11:21 12 1968
McCarty, Bob SF 11:21 12 11/26/69
Templeman, Hans Carl 11:26.4 11 11/14/69
Templeman, Hans Carl 11:27 11 11/26/69
Stahl, Randy Home 11:28 12 11/21/69
Lawson, Randy SCarlos 11:28 12 11/26/69
McCarty, Bob SF 11:33 12 1969
O'Halloran, Dennis SF 11:33 12 11/26/69
Bush, Jack PH 11:34 12 11/26/69
Templeman, Hans Carl 11:35 11 11/21/69
Kruse, Keith Camd 11:36 12 11/26/69
McCarty, Bob SF 11:37 12 10/23/69
Ribera, Ernie Oce 11:38 11 11/26/69
Silva, Ed Wats 11:40 12 11/26/69
Ribera, Bernie Oce 11:41 11 1969
Kinsella, John Soq 11:41 10 11/26/69
Templeman, Hans Carl 11:42 11 10/23/69
Whytock, Joe Burl 11:43 12 1968
Templeman, Hans Carl 11:44 11 10/16/69
Lawson, Randy SCarlos 11:44 12 11/21/69
O'Halloran, Dennis SF 11:45 12 10/23/69
Gieken, Brooks Cub 11:45 10 11/26/69
Geiken, Brooks Cub 11:46 10 11/21/69
O'Halloran, Dennis SF 11:47 12 1969
Lawson, Randy SCarlos 11:47 12 10/30/69
Lawson, Randy SCarlos 11:47 12 11/14/69
Stahl, Randy Home 11:47 12 11/26/69
McCarty, Bob SF 11:48 11 1968
Lawson, Randy SCarlos 11:48 12 10/23/69
Templeman, Hans Carl 11:48 11 10/30/69
Remak, Jan Home 11:48 12 11/21/69
Remak, Jan Home 11:50 12 11/26/69
Lawson, Randy SCarlos 11:51 12 10/16/69
Cortez, Jose Seq 11:51 12 11/14/69
Cortez, Jose Seq 11:51 12 11/21/69
Bales, Tom Seq 11:52 11 1968
Montoya, Joe SI 11:52 12 1968
Finch, Jim Mills 11:53 11 1968
Stahl, Randy Home 11:53 12 10/23/69
Davis, Larry LA 11:53 12 11/26/69
Haley, Terry Camd 11:53 12 11/26/69
Tranchina, Gary Soq 11:53 12 11/26/69
Carvey, Scott Carl 11:54 11 10/23/69
Blackwell, Gordy Sar 11:54 12 11/26/69
Smith, Wayne Mills 11:55 12 1969
Hart WG 11:55 10/16/69
Chamness, Dave Awlt 11:55 11 11/26/69
Brassel, Tom Home 11:55 12 11/26/69
Thompson, Glenn Home 11:55 12 11/26/69
Amaya, Gen Burl 11:56 12 1968
Wetteland, Randy Hills 11:57 10 1968
Kling, Doug Hills 11:57 12 1969
Geiken, Brooks Cub 11:57 10 11/14/69
Smith, Bob LA 11:57 11 11/21/69
Templeman, Hans Carl 11:58 10 1968
Carvey, Scott Carl 11:58 11 10/16/69
Guerin, John Rio 11:59 10 1968
Smith, Bob LA 11:59 11 11/26/69
Smith, Bob LA 12:00 11 10/30/69
Chamness, Dave Awlt 12:00 11 11/21/69
Brooks, Steve MP 12:00 10 11/26/69
Collins, Art WG 12:00 12 11/26/69
Lundblad, Mike Carl 12:00 12 11/26/69
Ashford, Phil SCarlos 12:01 12 1968
Haley, Terry Carl 12:01 12 11/21/69
Smith, Wayne Mills 12:01 12 11/26/69
Tanski, Chuck Rio 12:02 12 1969
Geiken, Brooks Cub 12:02 10 10/30/69
Manriquez, George MP 12:02 9 11/26/69
Lawson, Randy SCarlos 12:03 11 1968
Sofos, Steve Burl 12:03 12 1968
Wetteland, Randy Hills 12:03 11 1969
Claussen, Phil Camd 12:03 10 11/26/69
Tanski, Chuck Rio 12:03 12 11/26/69
Marconi, John Burl 12:04 10 1968
Nolan, Rick SCarlos 12:04 12 1968
Kinsella, John Soq 12:04 10 10/23/69
Tranchina, Gary Soq 12:04 12 10/23/69
Cortez Seq 12:04 9 10/30/69
Wells, Don Wood 12:04 12 11/21/69
Lewis, Vern Home 12:04 9 11/26/69
Chamness, Dave Awlt 12:05 11 10/23/69
Thompson, Glenn Home 12:05 12 11/21/69
Frosolone, Chuck SF 12:06 12 1968
Ting, Art Wood 12:06 12 1968
Peth WG 12:06 11 10/16/69
MacMitchell, Gordon Ter 12:06 9 11/14/69
Gaesser, Paul Home 12:06 12 11/21/69
Carvey, Scott Carl 12:06 11 11/26/69
Cortez, Jose Seq 12:06 12 11/26/69
Coleman, Greg Paly 12:07 12 1968
Glenesk, Neil Mills 12:07 12 1969
Cortes SC 12:07 10/16/69
Geiken, Brooks Cub 12:07 10 10/23/69
Carvey, Scott Carl 12:07 11 11/14/69
Carvey, Scott Carl 12:08 11 11/21/69
Lynch, Gary Oce 12:09 11 1969
Furnari, Ralph Carl 12:09 12 11/14/69
Haley, Terry Carl 12:09 12 11/14/69
Miller, Steve Carl 12:10 9 11/14/69
Regalado, Larry Carl 12:10 11 11/14/69
Kallbrier, Mike Cup 12:10 12 11/21/69
Chamness, Larry Awlt 12:10 9 11/21/69
Crary, Ward WG 12:10 11 11/26/69
Gissor, Bryan SCarlos 12:10 11 11/26/69
Phillippe, Matt SCarlos 12:11 12 10/23/69
Mitchell, Watt MP 12:11 11 11/26/69
Reed, Glen Home 12:12 11 1969
Thompson, Glenn Home 12:12 12 10/23/69
Brown, Rick LA 12:12 12 10/30/69
Chamness, Larry Awlt 12:12 9 11/26/69
Tanski, Chuck Rio 12:13 11 1968
Sheehan, John Ara 12:13 11 1969
Tanski, Chuck Rio 12:13 12 10/30/69
DeSelms, Kevin Lyn 12:13 11 11/21/69
Furnari, Ralph Carl 12:13 12 11/21/69
Cazahous, Phil Rio 12:13 12 11/26/69
Schotzko, Dave Hills 12:14 11 1969
Kling, Doug Hills 12:14 12 10/30/69
Gaesser, Paul Home 12:14 12 11/26/69
Hermosillo Wats 12:14 12 11/26/69
Guerin, John Rio 12:15 11 1969
Morris, Bob Rio 12:15 11 1969
Marshall, John Home 12:15 11 11/21/69
Schloss, Ron MA 12:15 12 11/21/69
McConnell Soq 12:15 11 11/26/69
Miller, Steve Carl 12:15 9 11/26/69
Gieser, Bryan SCarlos 12:16 10 1968
Hassa, Vic Serra 12:16 11 1968
Cartez Seq 12:16 10/23/69
Wells, Don Wood 12:16 12 11/14/69
Black, Russ Carl 12:16 10 11/21/69
Shields Mont 12:16 11 11/26/69
Wells, Don Wood 12:17 11 1968
Furnari, Ralph Carl 12:17 12 10/23/69
Black, Russ Carl 12:17 10 10/30/69
MacMitchell, Gordon Ter 12:17 9 10/30/69
Schloss, Ron MA 12:17 12 11/14/69
Coffey, Jim Hills 12:17 12 11/26/69
Furnari, Ralph Carl 12:17 12 11/26/69
Sofos, Rick Burl 12:18 10 1968
Coffey, Jim Hills 12:18 12 1969
Patrick, Greg Seq 12:18 11 10/23/69
Gaesser, Paul Home 12:18 12 10/23/69
Haley, Terry Carl 12:18 12 10/23/69
Gieser, Bryan SCarlos 12:18 11 10/30/69
Botham, Marty Hills 12:18 10 11/26/69
MacMitchell, Gordon Ter 12:18 9 11/26/69
Hager, Franz Awlt 12:19 11 11/26/69
Glenesk, Neil Mills 12:19 12 11/26/69
Gieser, Bryan SCarlos 12:20 11 10/23/69
DeSelms, Kevin Lyn 12:20 11 11/26/69
Monteys, Dave Burl 12:21 11 1969
Black, Russ Carl 12:21 10 10/23/69
Haley WG 12:21 12 11/26/69
Ryan, John Rio 12:22 10 1969
Van Dine, Jim ElC 12:22 10 1969
Marconi, John Burl 12:22 11 10/23/69
Tofallo Over 12:22 10 10/30/69
Ignatowicz, Greg Lyn 12:22 12 11/26/69
Brown, Peter Burl 12:22 9 11/26/69
Phillippe, Matt SCarlos 12:23 11 1968
MacMitchell, Gordon Ter 12:23 9 10/23/69
Tanski, Chuck Rio 12:23 12 10/23/69
Davis, Larry LA 12:23 12 10/30/69
Hager, Franz Awlt 12:23 11 11/21/69
Garcia Wats 12:23 10 11/26/69
Morris, Bob Rio 12:24 10 1968
Guadagni, Jim Mills 12:24 12 1969
Phillippe WG 12:24 10/16/69
Marshall, John Home 12:24 11 10/23/69
Cazahous, Phil Rio 12:24 12 10/23/69
Frederico TN 12:24 10/30/69
Church, Steve Home 12:24 11 11/21/69
Lima, Mark Cup 12:24 11 11/21/69
Smith, Bob Lyn 12:24 12 11/21/69
Black, Russ Carl 12:24 10 11/26/69
Lynch, Gary Oce 12:24 11 11/26/69
Cazahous, Phil Rio 12:25 11 1968
Cazahous, Phil Rio 12:25 12 1969
Massa, Vic Serra 12:25 12 1969
Kallbrier, Mike Cup 12:25 12 10/16/69
Haley, Terry Carl 12:25 12 10/30/69
Kling, Doug Hills 12:25 12 11/26/69
Slyngstad DM 12:25 12 11/26/69
Volgsdadt, Roger Hills 12:26 12 1969
Brooks, Steve MP 12:26 10 10/30/69
Ignatowicz, Greg Lyn 12:26 12 11/21/69
Benson Camd 12:26 10 11/26/69
Ebert, Bob WG 12:26 10 11/26/69
Carvey, Scott Carl 12:27 10 1968
Halligan, Ken SSF 12:27 1969
Black, Russ Carl 12:27 10 10/16/69
Helbush, Bill Carl 12:27 11 11/26/69
Peth WG 12:27 11 11/26/69
Basham, Mike SCarlos 12:28 11 11/21/69
Regalado, Larry Carl 12:28 11 11/21/69
Jameson Wats 12:28 10 11/26/69
Ryan, John Rio 12:28 10 11/26/69
Gruening, Randy Ara 12:29 11 1968
O'Halloran, Dave SF 12:29 11 1968
Henniger Mitty 12:29 10/16/69
Ryan, John Rio 12:29 10 10/23/69
Regalado, Larry Carl 12:29 11 10/23/69
Furnari, Ralph Carl 12:29 12 10/30/69
Stein, Joel Seq 12:29 12 11/14/69
Guerin, John Rio 12:29 11 11/26/69
Brown, Peter Burl 12:30 9 1969
Botham, Marty Hills 12:30 10 1969
Lima, Mark Cup 12:30 11 10/16/69
Lewis, Vern Home 12:30 9 10/23/69
McConnell Soq 12:30 11 10/23/69
Manriquez, George MP 12:30 9 10/30/69
Hart WG 12:30 11 11/26/69
Ames, Bob Mills 12:31 11 1969
Wells, Don Wood 12:31 12 10/16/69
Hart Awlt 12:31 11 11/26/69
Reed Hills 12:31 11 11/26/69
Miller MP 12:31 12 11/26/69
Matza, Mark Ara 12:32 12 1969
Arce, Jeff Wil 12:32 10 10/16/69
Ebert, Bob WG 12:32 10 10/16/69
Furnari, Ralph Carl 12:32 12 10/16/69
Remak, Jan Home 12:32 12 10/23/69
Begalca MP 12:32 10 10/30/69
Wells, Don Wood 12:32 12 10/30/69
Arce, Jeff Wil 12:32 10 11/21/69
Martinez, Dennis Rio 12:32 10 11/26/69
Duran Burl 12:33 9 10/23/69
Focha, Pete Home 12:33 10 10/23/69
Wells, Don Wood 12:33 12 10/23/69
Regalado, Larry Carl 12:33 11 10/30/69
Halligan, Ken SSF 12:33 10/30/69
Black, Russ Carl 12:33 10 11/14/69
Wilson, Brian Wil 12:33 11 11/21/69
Skinner, Paul Lyn 12:33 11 11/26/69
Wettaland Hills 12:33 11 11/26/69
Guadagni, Jim Mills 12:33 12 11/26/69
Hager Awlt 12:34 10/23/69
Mathews, Scott LA 12:34 11 10/30/69
Mills, Walt Awlt 12:34 9 11/21/69
Hart, Rick Awlt 12:34 10 11/21/69
Patrick, Greg Seq 12:34 11 11/21/69
Doze, Charles Camd 12:34 10 11/26/69
Regalado, Larry Carl 12:34 11 11/26/69
Ross Mills 12:34 11 11/26/69
Cassel Wats 12:34 12 11/26/69
Marshall Home 12:34 12 11/26/69
Haniger, Mike Mitty 12:35 10 1968
Sefos, Rick Burl 12:35 11 1969
Martinez, Dennis Rio 12:35 10 10/23/69
Reed Hills 12:35 11 10/30/69
Phillippe, Matt SCarlos 12:35 12 11/14/69
Helbush, Bill Carl 12:35 11 11/21/69
Mathews, Scott LA 12:35 11 11/21/69
Stein, Joel Seq 12:35 12 11/21/69
Tofallo Over 12:35 10 11/26/69
Tolbert Camd 12:35 12 11/26/69
Wilcox Mont 12:35 12 11/26/69
Porter, Mike SI 12:36 10 1969
Haley WG 12:36 10/16/69
Phillippe, Matt SCarlos 12:36 12 11/21/69
Lewis, Vern Home 12:36 9 11/21/69
Garber Camd 12:36 11 11/26/69
Rasham SCarlos 12:36 11 11/26/69
Sanford Sar 12:36 11 11/26/69
Cole, Chris SI 12:37 10 1969
Stein, Joel Seq 12:37 12 10/23/69
Botham, Marty Hills 12:37 10 10/30/69
Ames, Bob Mills 12:37 11 11/26/69
Schotzko Home 12:37 11 11/26/69
Strong Camd 12:37 11 11/26/69
Fazzino, Wayne Paly 12:38 10 1968
DeSelms, Kevin Lyn 12:38 11 10/16/69
Church, Matt Home 12:38 9 10/23/69
Donaldson, Alan MP 12:38 10 11/26/69
Marconi, John Burl 12:39 11 1969
Stein, Joel Seq 12:39 12 10/16/69
Gieser, Bryan SCarlos 12:39 11 11/14/69
Miller, Steve Carl 12:39 9 11/21/69
Fondacabe, Greg Carl 12:39 11 11/21/69
Bailey, Mark Bell 12:39 10 11/26/69
Teresi MP 12:39 11 11/26/69
Volgstadt Home 12:39 12 11/26/69
Haley, Terry Carl 12:40 12 10/16/69
Patrick, Greg Seq 12:40 11 11/14/69
Stewart, Tim Lyn 12:40 9 11/21/69
Griffin Wats 12:40 11 11/26/69
Verrette, Tom Awlt 12:40 11 11/26/69
Bregante, Mike Hills 12:41 12 1969
Hawkins, Harold Burl 12:41 10 10/23/69
Hume Camp 12:41 10/30/69
Helbush, Bill Carl 12:41 11 11/14/69
Basham, Mike SCarlos 12:41 11 11/14/69
Logan, Fred Fre 12:41 11 11/21/69
Martinez, Dennis Rio 12:42 10 1969
Wilson, Brian Wil 12:42 11 10/16/69
Massa, Vic Serra 12:42 12 10/16/69
Schotzko, Dave Hills 12:42 11 10/30/69
Miller MP 12:42 10/30/69
Thompson, Al Seq 12:42 10 11/21/69
Brown, Rick LA 12:42 12 11/21/69
Carris, Mike Camd 12:42 10 11/26/69
Gillan, Pat Home 12:42 11 11/26/69
Wigney, Rick Burl 12:43 11 1969
Paul Cre 12:43 10/23/69
Bailey, Mark Buc 12:43 10 11/21/69
Lott, Mike Cup 12:43 10 11/21/69
Club, Dan Awlt 12:43 12 11/26/69
Foley, Jim Ara 12:44 12 1969
Loraste Serra 12:44 10/23/69
Cole, Chris SI 12:44 10 10/30/69
Haniger, Mike Mitty 12:44 10 10/30/69
Batluck Seq 12:44 10/30/69
Pollard MP 12:44 10 11/26/69
Regalado, Larry Carl 12:45 11 10/16/69
Berka, Chris LA 12:45 10 10/30/69
Berka, Chris LA 12:45 10 11/21/69
Focha, Pete Home 12:45 10 11/21/69
DeLaRoche Camd 12:45 10 11/26/69
Fondacabe, Greg Carl 12:45 11 11/26/69
Grander Sar 12:45 11 11/26/69
Club, Dan Awlt 12:46 12 10/23/69
Coffey, Jim Hills 12:46 12 10/30/69
Dellarocca, Ed TN 12:46 12 10/30/69
Gillam, Pat Home 12:46 11 11/21/69
Acosta Gil 12:46 10 11/26/69
Richter, Jim SCarlos 12:46 10 11/26/69
O'Toole, Tom Home 12:46 11 11/26/69
Lott, Mike Cup 12:47 10 10/16/69
Craig WG 12:47 10/16/69
Fetherolf, Jamie Carl 12:47 11 10/30/69
Oliver, Chuck Carl 12:47 10 11/14/69
Fondacabe, Greg Carl 12:47 11 11/14/69
Richter, Jim SCarlos 12:47 10 11/14/69
Howell, Mike Home 12:47 10 11/21/69
Skinner, Paul Lyn 12:47 11 11/21/69
Barraya PG 12:47 10 11/26/69
Focha, Pete Home 12:47 10 11/26/69
Aynn, Collin Home 12:47 11 11/26/69
Church Home 12:47 12 11/26/69
Salinas WG 12:47 12 11/26/69
Dellarocca, Ed TN 12:48 12 1969
Hofas Burl 12:48 10/23/69
Montara Burl 12:48 10/23/69
Martinez, Dennis Rio 12:48 10 10/30/69
Howell, Mike Home 12:48 10 11/26/69
Schelegle, Ed ElC 12:49 1969
Ehigleber Ara 12:49 10 10/16/69
Voskes Cre 12:49 10/23/69
Porter, Mike SI 12:49 10 10/30/69
Wetteland, Randy Hills 12:49 11 10/30/69
Hayes, Rich Carl 12:49 11 11/14/69
Cortez Seq 12:49 9 11/14/69
Fetherolf, Jamie Carl 12:49 11 11/21/69
Rios, Dave Wil 12:49 11 11/21/69
Washer, Fred Wstmnt 12:49 10 11/26/69
Bibler Mont 12:49 12 11/26/69
Merslich, John Hills 12:50 11 1969
Naylor, Steve TN 12:50 12 1969
Hayes, Rich Carl 12:50 11 10/23/69
Polland MP 12:50 10 10/30/69
Basham, Mike SCarlos 12:50 11 10/30/69
Paul Cre 12:50 10/30/69
Church, Matt Home 12:50 9 11/21/69
Oliver, Chuck Carl 12:50 10 11/21/69
Hayes, Rich Carl 12:50 11 11/21/69
Gonzales, Bob Wil 12:50 12 11/21/69
Akard Mont 12:50 10 11/26/69
Bench, Bill Hills 12:50 10 11/26/69
Hayes, Rich Carl 12:50 11 11/26/69
Mathews, Scott LA 12:50 11 11/26/69
Mills Awlt 12:50 11 11/26/69
Middleton, Ron Oce 12:50 12 11/26/69
Devdinger DM 12:50 11/26/69
Holl, Jeff Rio 12:51 9 1968
Pomeroy, Jim Oce 12:51 11 1969
Michaels, Peter Wil 12:51 10 10/16/69
Quesaden MV 12:51 10 10/16/69
Kesling, Steve Cap 12:51 12 10/23/69
Sena Lick 12:51 10/30/69
Rountree, Mike MA 12:51 12 11/14/69
Bigelow Mpt 12:51 10 11/26/69
Owens, Mike Home 12:51 10 11/26/69
Church, Matt Home 12:51 9 11/26/69
Ewigleben, Bob Ara 12:52 10 1969
Levy, Brian Oce 12:52 11 1969
Chamness, Larry Awlt 12:52 9 10/23/69
Fetherolf, Jamie Carl 12:52 11 10/23/69
Ratcliff SC 12:52 10/23/69
Wegner Burl 12:52 10/23/69
Hager, Paul Awlt 12:52 10 11/21/69
Beeman, Tony Lyn 12:52 11 11/21/69
McMurray, Steve Hills 12:52 10 11/26/69
Fetherolf, Jamie Carl 12:52 11 11/26/69
Pomeroy, Jim Oce 12:52 11 11/26/69
Flynn Home 12:53 10/23/69
Donaldson, Alan MP 12:53 10 10/30/69
Richardson, George TN 12:53 9 10/30/69
Yanena, Ricky Pet 12:53 10 11/21/69
Williams, Tracy Wstmnt 12:53 10 11/26/69
Grayatt DM 12:53 11 11/26/69
McCormick, Kelly Mills 12:53 12 11/26/69
Seidel Mont 12:53 12 11/26/69
Brown LA 12:53 9 11/26/69
Stewart, Tim Lyn 12:53 9 11/26/69
Cano, Alex SSF 12:54 10 1969
Salings WG 12:54 10/16/69
Rountree, Mike MA 12:54 12 10/30/69
MacMitchell, Gordon Ter 12:54 9 11/21/69
Zibell, Hugh Carl 12:54 12 11/21/69
Richter, Jim SCarlos 12:54 10 11/21/69
Churchill, Marvin Home 12:54 10 11/26/69
Lail, Larry Mills 12:54 10 11/26/69
Oliver, Chuck Carl 12:54 10 11/26/69
Vigil, Mo Seq 12:54 10 11/26/69
Phillippe, Matt SCarlos 12:54 12 11/26/69
Lail, Larry Mills 12:55 10 1969
Ray, Tom SI 12:55 11 1969
Middleton, Ron Oce 12:55 12 1969
Basham, Mike SCarlos 12:55 11 10/16/69
Sheehan, John Ara 12:55 11 10/16/69
Ignatowicz, Greg Lyn 12:55 12 10/16/69
Thompson, Al Seq 12:55 10 10/23/69
Gillam, Pat Home 12:55 11 10/23/69
Thomas, Lyle Carl 12:55 11 10/23/69
Moore Awlt 12:55 10/23/69
Oliver, Chuck Carl 12:55 10 10/30/69
Maldonado SSF 12:55 10/30/69
Cattarin, Carl Carl 12:55 9 11/14/69
Magagnose Soq 12:55 11 11/26/69
Zibel, Hugh Carl 12:55 12 11/26/69
Gruening, Randy Ara 12:56 12 1969
Hayes, Rich Carl 12:56 11 10/16/69
Teresi MP 12:56 11 10/30/69
Baraona Cre 12:56 10/30/69
Voskes Cre 12:56 10/30/69
Botham, Marty Hills 12:57 9 1968
Casey, Ed Bell 12:57 10 1969
Sorenson, Rich Burl 12:57 12 1969
Richter, Jim SCarlos 12:57 10 10/23/69
Francesco Bell 12:57 10/23/69
Thompson, Al Seq 12:57 10 10/30/69
Helbush, Bill Carl 12:57 11 10/30/69
Fondacabe Carl 12:57 10/30/69
Medeiros Camp 12:57 10/30/69
Sanchez Lick 12:57 10/30/69
Kipp, Greg Wood 12:57 12 11/14/69
Bay, John Gunn 12:57 10 11/21/69
Michaels, Dave Wil 12:57 11 11/21/69
Sanford, Rich Home 12:57 11 11/21/69
Flager Awlt 12:57 10 11/26/69
Franca Gil 12:57 10 11/26/69
Beeman, Tony Lyn 12:57 11 11/26/69
Catterin, Carl Carl 12:57 9 11/26/69
Gazlay, Lee Pet 12:57 9 11/26/69
Benck, Bill Hills 12:58 10 1969
Caton, Rich Burl 12:58 12 1969
Schloss, Ron MA 12:58 12 10/16/69
Blake, Rick Rio 12:58 10 10/23/69
Black Bell 12:58 10/23/69
Cano, Alex SSF 12:58 10 10/30/69
Schloss, Ron MA 12:58 12 10/30/69
Alsop PG 12:58 10 11/26/69
Schiefer WG 12:58 10 11/26/69
Levy Oce 12:58 12 11/26/69
Johnson, Ken Leigh 12:58 9 11/26/69
Arguello, Jose Rio 12:59 9 1968
Richardson, Mark TN 12:59 11 1969
Burnett, Ian Mills 12:59 9 1969
Wilhite Buc 12:59 10/16/69
Gonzales SC 12:59 10/23/69
Richter, Jim SCarlos 12:59 10 10/30/69
Rodriguez, Desi Seq 12:59 10 10/30/69
Naylor, Steve TN 12:59 12 10/30/69
Trine, Dave SCarlos 12:59 10 11/14/69
Barbour, John MA 12:59 10 11/21/69
Churchill, Marvin Home 12:59 10 11/21/69
Club, Dan Awlt 12:59 12 11/21/69
Turner, Paul Lyn 12:59 10 11/26/69
Venuti Sar 12:59 10 11/26/69
Marsh DM 12:59 11/26/69
Ryan, John Rio 13:00 9 1968
Finn, Pat Serra 13:00 10 1969
Torp, Dave Ara 13:00 12 1969
Richter, Jim SCarlos 13:00 10 10/16/69
Caton, Rich Burl 13:00 12 10/23/69
Wall Rio 13:00 10/23/69
Bay, John Gunn 13:00 10 10/30/69
Cazahous, Phil Rio 13:00 12 10/30/69
Watkins, Steve Wil 13:00 11 11/21/69
Rountree, Mike MA 13:00 12 11/21/69
Blake, Rick Rio 13:00 10 11/26/69
Graham, Dan SI 13:01 10 1969
Goerke, Mike TN 13:01 11 1969
Bailey, Mark Bell 13:01 10 10/16/69
Castaneda WG 13:01 10 10/16/69
Finn, Pat Serra 13:01 10 10/16/69
Gruening, Randy Ara 13:01 12 10/16/69
Uerrli Cup 13:01 10/16/69
Helbush, Bill Carl 13:01 11 10/23/69
Benck, Bill Hills 13:01 10 10/30/69
Ray, Tom SI 13:01 11 10/30/69
Fetherolf, Jamie Carl 13:01 11 11/14/69
Lawson, Hank Ter 13:01 9 11/21/69
Elynn, Collin Home 13:01 11 11/21/69
Berka, Chris LA 13:01 10 11/26/69
Cortez, Frank Seq 13:01 10 11/26/69
Cruz WG 13:01 10 11/26/69
Killam, Steve M 13:01 10 11/26/69
Connors Soq 13:01 11 11/26/69
Love, Sam SM 13:02 10 1969
Oliver, Chuck Carl 13:02 10 10/16/69
Jackson, Terry SCarlos 13:02 9 11/14/69
Purcell, Pat Seq 13:02 10 11/14/69
Bay, John Gunn 13:02 10 11/26/69
Ewigleben, Bob Ara 13:02 10 11/26/69
Sullivan, Mike SM 13:02 12 11/26/69
Feix, Dave Mills 13:03 9 1969
O'Brien, Steve Cap 13:03 11 10/23/69
Phillippe, Matt SCarlos 13:03 12 10/30/69
Wernili, Dan Cup 13:03 11 11/21/69
Merrell Camd 13:03 10 11/26/69
Lawson, Hank Ter 13:03 9 11/26/69
Blake, Rick Rio 13:04 10 1969
Rountree, Mike MA 13:04 12 10/16/69
Cattarin, Carl Carl 13:04 9 10/23/69
Mills, Walt Awlt 13:04 9 10/23/69
Long MP 13:04 10 10/30/69
McKelvey MP 13:04 10 10/30/69
Romero MP 13:04 10/30/69
White, Ken SCarlos 13:04 10 11/14/69
Deppe, Jack Fre 13:04 10 11/21/69
Michaels, Peter Wil 13:04 10 11/21/69
Sterra, Bob Awlt 13:04 12 11/21/69
Ichakawa DM 13:04 10 11/26/69
Rivas, Dan Home 13:04 11 11/26/69
Geiken, Brooks Wilbur 13:05 9 1968
Blas, John SF 13:05 11 1969
Blas, John SF 13:05 11 10/23/69
Arnold Paly 13:05 12 10/23/69
Lebre, Ed SF 13:05 10/23/69
Garcia, Pepe SSF 13:05 10/30/69
Tooke, Jim Sun 13:05 9 11/21/69
Turner, Paul Lyn 13:05 10 11/21/69
Stein Ali 13:05 10 11/26/69
Thompson, Al Seq 13:05 10 11/